Why are some great dancers chronically single?

kbitten said:
some of you are giving reasons for "dancers chronically single" but the post is about GREAT dancers...

I saw a video where the host said "these international teachers spent 47 out of the 52 weekends travelling teaching classes"..he was talking about jordan and tatiana..I wouldnt date jordan hehe

tatiana is engaged but we know women are different ;)
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No, we're not. See below. lol

thepresenceon2 said:
"Mario is not staying in London for a single weekend but he has a gf."

Her "mechanic" gives her tune-ups on the weekends...j/k.........
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Outside from traveling, that I know for sure destroys relationships, to compete and perform and generally push the ceiling takes a lot of time and focus. On the other side there are great dancers and married couples like Tito and Tamara or Troy and Jorjet.
P.S. Just realized, they often travel together.
 
noobster said:
My observations:

1) You can't date someone in the scene because of gossip, and because if you break up you have to see them out dancing and it will be messy

2) You can't date someone out of the scene because
a) nobody but another salser@ would countenance this dancing flirtatiously with strangers at all hours of the night, and
b) even if s/he didn't mind your dancing, s/he probably would mind the fact that you do it 3-5 nights a week (because how much time does that leave for your actual relationship?)

3) Salsa gives you just enough contact with the opposite sex to prevent you from missing it enough to stop dancing and go find a gf/bf.
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This post may be from 5 years ago, but it cracked me up...and is spot on. :)

Is noobster still active on SF, I wonder?
 
bellavita said:
This post may be from 5 years ago, but it cracked me up...and is spot on. :)
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Spot on, yes, but not absolute.

There are those who dance (salsa or other forms of dancing), but who don't qualify as either 1 or 2 in Noobster's post. They seldomly social dance, don't get involved in the gossip, and technically aren't part of the scene, thus aren't known to many people. At the same time, they are passionate about dancing and understand the insatiable appetite a social dancer possesses and won't get jealous if you happen to dance 4-5 times a week since they dance themselves or are at least aware of the need for it.
 
True, not absolute. But it could be argued that if someone seldom social dances, he or she isn't actually part of any "scene"...so the remarks don't apply. :)
 
Chris_Yannick said:
There are those who dance (salsa or other forms of dancing), but who don't quality as either 1 or 2 in Noobster's post. They seldomly social dance, don't get involved in the gossip, and technically aren't part of the scene, thus aren't known to many people. At the same time, they are passionate about dancing and understand the insatiable appetite a social dancer possesses and won't get jealous if you happen to dance 4-5 times a week since they dance themselves or are at least aware of the need for it.
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You are describing my hubby ;)
 
kbitten said:
some of you are giving reasons for "dancers chronically single" but the post is about GREAT dancers...

I saw a video where the host said "these international teachers spent 47 out of the 52 weekends travelling teaching classes"..he was talking about jordan and tatiana..I wouldnt date jordan hehe

tatiana is engaged but we know women are different ;)
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Just some initial thoughts:

Among the great dancers I can think of, tons are couples and of those that aren't, there are outstanding circumstances that keep them that way. How about because they aren't actually any good at being in a relationship, and their notoriety and the ability to travel gives them the opportunity to have a quick hook-up all across the world (or in the studio) with zero guilt. There are other dancers that literally feel a relationship is strictly a distraction from their art, and they literally are trying to create a unique style that takes so much time, effort and mental anguish that they don't leave time for an emotional investment. Others are great dancers but odd, sometimes very one dimensional people. Others look single, but aren't and are just incredibly discreet.
 
opm1s6 said:
Among the great dancers I can think of, tons are couples and of those that aren't, there are outstanding circumstances that keep them that way. How about because they aren't actually any good at being in a relationship, and their notoriety and the ability to travel gives them the opportunity to have a quick hook-up all across the world (or in the studio) with zero guilt. There are other dancers that literally feel a relationship is strictly a distraction from their art, and they literally are trying to create a unique style that takes so much time, effort and mental anguish that they don't leave time for an emotional investment. Others are great dancers but odd, sometimes very one dimensional people. Others look single, but aren't and are just incredibly discreet.
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Bam! (That is opm's post hitting the nail on the head.)
 
Yup. Definitely all valid -- have known people who fit those examples, some of which have fit myself, as well. I also know more than one couple who are the extreme opposite -- they have shared Dance since childhood, have been virtually inseparable since that time, and have seemed "destined" to live a life together in the pursuit of their passion.

There are so many angles to this subject.
 
opm1s6 said:
Just some initial thoughts:

Among the great dancers I can think of, tons are couples and of those that aren't, there are outstanding circumstances that keep them that way. How about because they aren't actually any good at being in a relationship, and their notoriety and the ability to travel gives them the opportunity to have a quick hook-up all across the world (or in the studio) with zero guilt. There are other dancers that literally feel a relationship is strictly a distraction from their art, and they literally are trying to create a unique style that takes so much time, effort and mental anguish that they don't leave time for an emotional investment. Others are great dancers but odd, sometimes very one dimensional people. Others look single, but aren't and are just incredibly discreet.
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I don't know if 'great' dancers have more propensity to be single than the representative population group they belong to. Most 'great' dancers are probably congregated in age of group 30s - again a very favourable group to be single. I think may be the original question itself is wrong. Ask a wrong question and you will get wrong answers. Traveling is certainly a distinguishing characteristic but the rest of the reasons would apply to any randomly chosen group. I don't know enough to say that more 'great' dancers are single than not.

Also perhaps who is a 'great' dancer is skewed by the fact who people see and know. E.g. as I noted some where else, Manga was practically unknown here till couple of years back and I doubt if more than 10% of the dancers in the bay area have ever heard of her. It is easier for those who are single to travel. Conversely the 'great' dancers who are in relationship are less likely to to travel, making them fall off the 'great' group :)
 
Offbeat said:
I don't know if 'great' dancers have more propensity to be single than the representative population group they belong to. Most 'great' dancers are probably congregated in age of group 30s - again a very favourable group to be single. I think may be the original question itself is wrong. Ask a wrong question and you will get wrong answers. Traveling is certainly a distinguishing characteristic but the rest of the reasons would apply to any randomly chosen group. I don't know enough to say that more 'great' dancers are single than not.

Also perhaps who is a 'great' dancer is skewed by the fact who people see and know. E.g. as I noted some where else, Manga was practically unknown here till couple of years back and I doubt if more than 10% of the dancers in the bay area have every heard of her. It is easier for those who are single to travel. Conversely the 'great' dancers who are in relationship are less likely to to travel, making them fall off the 'great' group :)
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I was referring to professional dancers I know and dance with and some semi-pros who I respect and think they are actually more talented than the pros, but choose not to advance.
 
Chris_Yannick said:
There are those who dance (salsa or other forms of dancing), but who don't qualify as either 1 or 2 in Noobster's post. They seldomly social dance, don't get involved in the gossip, and technically aren't part of the scene, thus aren't known to many people. At the same time, they are passionate about dancing and understand the insatiable appetite a social dancer possesses.
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That's me for at least past two/three years. I do go out a bit more than seldom. But the volume of my dances is small. In this whole year I probably danced equivalent of two or three weeks worth of regular salser@s' dancing. Never been part of the scene ever.
 
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