What is the Eddie Torres technique?

SmallSteps3000 said:
Nevermind... I'm sticking with Rumba... just ran across this video someone posted before. The guy has beautiful movement. This is what I need:
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Woo hoo! I always recommend rumba for men and actually it's great for women too. But it beats ballroom Cuban motion classes any day! This is the genuine article! And not only for body motion but for getting comfortable improvising. In columbia it would be solo improvising and in guaguancó improvising together with a partner, dancing apart while maintaining a strong connection.
 
Zaperoko said:
I choose to dance timba like the guys in this video. I just don't look nearly as good. :(

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LOL I was at Latinoamericandó during the soundcheck when Limonta started making up the song. I should upload that video some time :)

Of course this is just solo dancing like you might do at a concert. People just dance casino with rumba, despelote, tembleque and maybe reggaeton to timba normally.

EDIT: If you have the hairstyle that's half the battle ;) But seriously the guys are are really sweet in person.
 
Myst said:
I think now that you gave more concrete context, I agree on all counts. You definitely come across as a lover of my culture - and that makes me a bit proud :) Thanks.
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This might be a strange question but is spanish your first language?
 
timberamayor said:
tricks are pretty much not intuitive and have to be taught. I personally don't like tricks, dip or lifts and neck drops cause me to figuratively vomit after seeing them ad nauseum.

What's interesting if you analyse what they did is that they dance casino during the gears and rumba during the verses. Kind of counter intuitive as well. She has an interesting personal style. they are obviously great dancers, but i'd do it differently if I were leading :)
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I suspect it's because the song has a lot of nice musical effects which Yoandy wants to use for his rumba/styling. . . I suspect that they've danced to this song a lot and he knows every accent by heart; it may not be a choreography exactly but he knows how he wants to use those accents.
 
timberamayor said:
tricks are pretty much not intuitive and have to be taught. I personally don't like tricks, dip or lifts and neck drops cause me to figuratively vomit after seeing them ad nauseum.
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Of course I mean if I teach my partner(s) who I've been dancing with a long time the trick. You'd have to be insane to just try that on the social floor without teaching the follower their part, the technique and the safety's etc. I mean even if I did that.
 
timberamayor said:
Woo hoo! I always recommend rumba for men and actually it's great for women too. But it beats ballroom Cuban motion classes any day! This is the genuine article! And not only for body motion but for getting comfortable improvising. In columbia it would be solo improvising and in guaguancó improvising together with a partner, dancing apart while maintaining a strong connection.
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What else would you recommend for women for their body movement?
 
SmallSteps3000 said:
What else would you recommend for women for their body movement?
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I would also recommend the various orisha dances. IMO they are even more difficult to do well. that type of body motion does not come naturally to me. Each orisha has specific drum patterns and specific dance steps and motions significant to the personality/characteristics of that diety. You recognize which one a person is dancing once you've taken a class.

Since I dance Cuban style i have also taken classes in despelote and tembleque. I am considering throwing in some reggaeton class at some point just to work on different ways of moving my body.

Here's a short example of Yanet Fuentes mixing despelote, tembleque and the orisha Eleguá in with a salsa choreography. that's kind of what I don't like about lady style classes is that they usually end up being some sort of choreography, but I guess it is to show you what you can do with the various pieces.

Here's one with several different orishas steps being used.

A body isolation class. It would be nice to think that one session would mean you come out moving like she does...

And some reggaeton
 
azzey said:
Of course I mean if I teach my partner(s) who I've been dancing with a long time the trick. You'd have to be insane to just try that on the social floor without teaching the follower their part, the technique and the safety's etc. I mean even if I did that.
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OK I was worried for a minute there :)
 
SmallSteps3000 said:
What else would you recommend for women for their body movement?
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If I may make a comment -- for men and women equally -- the key recommendation I make for everyone re. body motion is DAILY SOLO PRACTICE! Just taking rumba or afro or reggaeton won't get you anywhere. I see student after student take these classes thinking they'll get good and frankly a year on they show little to no improvement. The ones who get good at body motion are the people who go to the classes, learn some body motion exercises, then set aside at least 30 minutes every day to practice those exercises by themselves (shoulder rolls, shoulder shimmies, torso rolls, hip circles, ondolacion, latigo (don't know the technical English terms), etc, etc, etc).

It takes hard work -- but the results are totally worth it. (Plus it's addictive training. Right now I can't dance because of a foot injury -- so every day I spend an hour working through a long sequence of chest & shoulder isolations. That way I can still improve myself even if I can't dance the way I'd love to.)
 
TSC said:
The ones who get good at body motion are the people who go to the classes, learn some body motion exercises, then set aside at least 30 minutes every day to practice those exercises by themselves (shoulder rolls, shoulder shimmies, torso rolls, hip circles, undulation/ondulacion, latigo (don't know the technical English terms), etc, etc, etc).
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What's latigo?
 
azzey said:
What's latigo?
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I know undulation would be the literal translation, but is that actually a term used in the dance world? In Cuban dance as taught in school, it refers to a full-cycle wave motion (which goes back and forth), also called the bandera/flag sometimes.

The latigo is the whiplash effect -- it's the motion where you snap your hips forward sharply, which in turn snaps your torso forward in a whip-like motion. As with ondulacion, super common in rumba & afro. Doesn't necessarily have to start at the hips -- can start higher up too, for a smaller/tighter latigo.
 
TSC said:
I know undulation would be the literal translation, but is that actually a term used in the dance world? In Cuban dance as taught in school, it refers to a full-cycle wave motion (which goes back and forth), also called the bandera/flag sometimes.
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Yes, it's used in belly dancing. It's even in the oxford english dictionary.

TSC said:
The latigo is the whiplash effect -- it's the motion where you snap your hips forward sharply, which in turn snaps your torso forward in a whip-like motion. As with ondulacion, super common in rumba & afro. Doesn't necessarily have to start at the hips -- can start higher up too, for a smaller/tighter latigo.
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Ah I see.
 
TSC said:
I know undulation would be the literal translation, but is that actually a term used in the dance world? In Cuban dance as taught in school, it refers to a full-cycle wave motion (which goes back and forth), also called the bandera/flag sometimes.

The latigo is the whiplash effect -- it's the motion where you snap your hips forward sharply, which in turn snaps your torso forward in a whip-like motion. As with ondulacion, super common in rumba & afro. Doesn't necessarily have to start at the hips -- can start higher up too, for a smaller/tighter latigo.
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We use the word undulation and I whole heartedly agree about daily practice:)
 
timberamayor said:
Woo hoo! I always recommend rumba for men and actually it's great for women too. But it beats ballroom Cuban motion classes any day! This is the genuine article! And not only for body motion but for getting comfortable improvising. In columbia it would be solo improvising and in guaguancó improvising together with a partner, dancing apart while maintaining a strong connection.
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Consider yourself fortunate if you like in a city that has a qualified teach to teach rumba. I do not :facepalm:! When I feebly attempt to do it, I sorta pretend like I took a few classes and just do rumba-inspired movements, but I would easily get exposed if I had to dance rumba with someone who actually knows what they are doing. :D
 
timberamayor said:
LOL I was at Latinoamericandó during the soundcheck when Limonta started making up the song. I should upload that video some time :)

Of course this is just solo dancing like you might do at a concert. People just dance casino with rumba, despelote, tembleque and maybe reggaeton to timba normally.

EDIT: If you have the hairstyle that's half the battle ;) But seriously the guys are are really sweet in person.
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I just sorta lose myself when I dance this song, I like it that much. While I usually dance casino to it (peppered with some of the stuff you mention above), I also love dancing it on NY2 in a playful fashion. By playful fashion, I mean that I focus more on afro-cuban shines and other movements that accent the 1 count.
 
Myst said:
Yes, Spanish is my first language.
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Where did you learn such exceptional writing skills in English? I know many people who have lived here for more than 20 years and cannot write the way you do! My dad has been here since the 60's and is a writer but He still has grammatical and spelling issues! No lo puedo creer!
 
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