Salsa is not that sensual to get the girl like Bachata and kizomba !

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Mahmoud Naguib

Changui
Hello Guys

I wanna take your opinion on something

I started learning Salsa and Bachata and kizomba 1y 9m ago
I stopped learning bachata and kizomba after 4 months and continued Salsa for 1 full year classes
And i started

But during this all time I practice Salsa & Bachata and kizomba almost daily for 3 h

In the beginning I loved bachata more then I loved salsa more then bachata then Salsa
But for more than a year now I love salsa more than anything else
And actually I reached to very good level comparing with many people around dancing for even 2 or 3 years before me !

The thing is that
I didn't actually start dancing to get girls but actually it came naturally after sometime
But they all come by dancing Bachata and maybe kizomba as well as they are more sensual

I do love Salsa more than any thing and I reached to he one of the little good salsa dancers in my city unlike bachata and kizomba which many people dancing it well
Maybe if I invested same time of salsa in one of them I'll be even better than me on salsa

I don't like bachata much eventhough I dance it very well
But to be honest it's the best way to get girls

The question is
1. Am I have to go with what I love more and try to professional on it regardless I will get girls now or no
2. Learn more bachata or Kizomba to make balance
3. If you choose number 2
So which Dancing to go for which will make me able to have more dates through

I know it's kinda silly topic but we just can make it like experiences exchanging between each others

Thanks guys
 
What is your end goal? To go on as many dates as possible? Keep doing what you are doing then.

Though it seems like a better match for you, would is to eventually find someone that also likes salsa as much as you do by dancing more salsa and talking to the women there between songs. Do you want quantity of dates or quality of matches.
 
voomer said:
What is your end goal? To go on as many dates as possible? Keep doing what you are doing then.

Though it seems like a better match for you, would is to eventually find someone that also likes salsa as much as you do by dancing more salsa and talking to the women there between songs. Do you want quantity of dates or quality of matches.
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This is good point actually
I'm looking for quality of matching but to be honest very rare to find girls who dancing salsa well plus if they do they will not be much thinking of dating like bachata dancers let's say

As also most of them are begginers and easier to get dating with them

Eventhough I'd love to be in relationship more than the quantity of dates but to be with someone loves salsa as me so we can practice and try to be professional together

I know also it will take time to find this one so I don't need to miss having some dates before I find her as also
 
Mahmoud Naguib said:
Your answer seems interesting
Just explain it more to me by example
I didn't get the meaning of real happiness is magnetic
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If you're enjoying your dance as the leader, it's more likely your follower will enjoy it as well. When dancing bleeds into personal relationships it's more than just about technical proficiency, it's about all the subtleties, how fun are you, how much are you enjoying yourself and transmitting that joy to your partner.

If you DO enjoy bachata and kiz, more power to you. Ride the wave.
 
elanimal said:
If you're enjoying your dance as the leader, it's more likely your follower will enjoy it as well. When dancing bleeds into personal relationships it's more than just about technical proficiency, it's about all the subtleties, how fun are you, how much are you enjoying yourself and transmitting that joy to your partner.

If you DO enjoy bachata and kiz, more power to you. Ride the wave.
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Here's the trick
I didn't pay much time learning bachata or Kizomba like salsa
Which is if I spent same time of salsa learning one of them maybe I'll love it like salsa or even more

But I just went with my passion and continued learning salsa more
And also If I need to be professional on dance I should focus more in it more than others

So am I should focus more in salsa to reach to high level or try to spend more time learning it all
 
This just made me think about how many times I "got women" dancing Salsa.
In my life I can only remember one time - it turned out to be a relationship of some years.
But mostly my love life didn't happen in dancing context.
This could reflect characteristics of the social dancing "scene" or be just a result of my dance level. :rofl:
 
First of all thank you original poster for this question in this gloomy corona times :) I missed such questions . I am no expert but there are multiple angles to this in my opinion . Lets be honest bachata and kizomba whatever many people say is much more sensual than salsa . I love all the three dance forms and my favorite is bachata .
So weight by weight sensuality peaks in bachata so maybe that explains you have better luck with it . Especially at beginner to improver level bachata is way easier so its more like socialising once you know the basics .More relaxed . I am not high level and even i could get some numbers by attending a bachata festival .

Salsa is in between joining a tennis game and bachata as definitely you have more chances of socialising even if you play tennis . Its more sensual than tennis and requires more technical knowledge too .

Kizomba my teachers say it is family dance and non sensual but practically i find that is also a sensual dance explanations aside .

And lastly purists say focus on the dance . yes . Focus on the dance but also there is nothing wrong in keeping an eye open for girls (wink ) respectfully .

Coming to the original question : there is nothing wrong in mixing learning salsa and bachata . Bachata learning will go parallelly and give rich dividends in expertise and meeting girls depends on your luck too .

And lastly all depends on your scene . In some snobbish scenes this question itself doesnt have relevance unless you are an expert level . Girls will look down on beginners and even intermediates in some scenes .

Statutory warning : I love these dances and i do love the dances as well as meeting girls and dont pretend that dancing is only about pure dancing . If it was i would have danced alone in himalayas/ alps :) Thanks once again as i was feeling lethargic seeing the impact (hopefully temperorary ) of corona on partner dancing . Will come back into the dancing scene . Girls pardon me for my answer if it was too honest :) Miss the girls in international festivals . Some of them were really respectful , cute and nice . Miss them all
 
Latinjazz said:
This just made me think about how many times I "got women" dancing Salsa.
In my life I can only remember one time - it turned out to be a relationship of some years.
But mostly my love life didn't happen in dancing context.
This could reflect characteristics of the social dancing "scene" or be just a result of my dance level. :rofl:
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Hahhahahaha
It just came naturally to me .. some time even I don't pay much tension and I find it coming from the girl
But it's kind of fun to see yourself improving in dancing & body shape and dating life all at one time
 
dancingintherain said:
First of all thank you original poster for this question in this gloomy corona times :) I missed such questions . I am no expert but there are multiple angles to this in my opinion . Lets be honest bachata and kizomba whatever many people say is much more sensual than salsa . I love all the three dance forms and my favorite is bachata .
So weight by weight sensuality peaks in bachata so maybe that explains you have better luck with it . Especially at beginner to improver level bachata is way easier so its more like socialising once you know the basics .More relaxed . I am not high level and even i could get some numbers by attending a bachata festival .

Salsa is in between joining a tennis game and bachata as definitely you have more chances of socialising even if you play tennis . Its more sensual than tennis and requires more technical knowledge too .

Kizomba my teachers say it is family dance and non sensual but practically i find that is also a sensual dance explanations aside .

And lastly purists say focus on the dance . yes . Focus on the dance but also there is nothing wrong in keeping an eye open for girls (wink ) respectfully .

Coming to the original question : there is nothing wrong in mixing learning salsa and bachata . Bachata learning will go parallelly and give rich dividends in expertise and meeting girls depends on your luck too .

And lastly all depends on your scene . In some snobbish scenes this question itself doesnt have relevance unless you are an expert level . Girls will look down on beginners and even intermediates in some scenes .

Statutory warning : I love these dances and i do love the dances as well as meeting girls and dont pretend that dancing is only about pure dancing . If it was i would have danced alone in himalayas/ alps :) Thanks once again as i was feeling lethargic seeing the impact (hopefully temperorary ) of corona on partner dancing . Will come back into the dancing scene . Girls pardon me for my answer if it was too honest :) Miss the girls in international festivals . Some of them were really respectful , cute and nice . Miss them all
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Thanks for your long answer it helps me to just invest more time in Bachata instead of Kizomba

Seems that I'll learn and dance salsa and bachata side to side same time
 
TikiTaka said:
I don't understand the question. Just do what makes you happy?
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It's complicated also for me as well
I know the answer is to go with what I love more
But I'm asking if there's someone got the same experience before so he can help me to choose what to do
Maybe there's middle answer
Life isn't always 2 ways only !
 
I'm a woman and I dance salsa, bachata and kiz (check my signature :p )
Here is my take on this: I have dated a few dancers over the years, from both salsa and bachata world (I didn't dance kiz back then). Honestly what made me want to date them was not whether we danced bachata or salsa, but how attractive I found them (not just physically but also after getting to know them).
Even though yes, bachata and kiz are more intimate dances (and I can tell you as a follow that I feel a lot more partner connection in kiz than in salsa), for me just the fact that I'm dancing with someone in an embrace doesn't make me more likely to date them.

Another factor of getting dates with dancers is the kind of place you go to. You're much more likely to find people that are open to dating in a bar-type dance party (where usually they play a mix of dance styles) than in a "salsa social" in a dance studio - though of course, there are always exceptions, but in general bar parties have a much wider mix of people, whereas studio socials mostly have "hardcore dancers". Some congresses are also great for casual hookups, for example I've heard (never been to them myself) that the Croatia summer festivals are great for that (but not this year of course).

Another word of advice: it's not a good idea to go into a bachata or kiz party mainly with the intention to find women to date, if you don't really enjoy those dances. Women (beyond beginners at least, as you have also noticed) can sense when someone's intention is to hook up instead of dance, and tend to avoid those guys.

Lastly: if you enjoy connection in dancing, I'd definitely recommend taking some more kiz courses to become more advanced in kiz - because kiz, especially when danced at an intermediate-advanced level, leaves salsa far behind when it comes to partner (and music) connection. So you may find that you end up enjoying kiz more than salsa.

Good luck!
 
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Sabrosura said:
I'm a woman and I dance salsa, bachata and kiz (check my signature :p )
Here is my take on this: back in the days when I was single, I dated some dancers, from both salsa and bachata world (I didn't dance kiz back then). Honestly what made me want to date them was not whether we danced bachata or salsa, but how attractive I found them (not just physically but also after getting to know them).
Even though yes, bachata and kiz are more intimate dances (and I can tell you as a follow that I feel a lot more partner connection in kiz than in salsa), for me just the fact that I'm dancing with someone in an embrace doesn't make me more likely to date them.

Another factor of getting dates with dancers is the kind of place you go to. You're much more likely to find people that are open to dating in a bar-type dance party (where usually they play a mix of dance styles) than in a "salsa social" in a dance studio - though of course, there are always exceptions, but in general bar parties have a much wider mix of people, whereas studio socials mostly have "hardcore dancers". Some congresses are also great for casual hookups, for example I've heard (never been to them myself) that the Croatia summer festivals are great for that (but not this year of course).

Another word of advice: it's not a good idea to go into a bachata or kiz party mainly with the intention to find women to date, if you don't really enjoy those dances. Women (beyond beginners at least, as you have also noticed) can sense when someone's intention is to hook up instead of dance, and tend to avoid those guys.

Lastly if you enjoy connection in dancing, I'd definitely recommend taking some more kiz courses to become more advances in kiz - because kiz, especially when danced at an intermediate-advanced level, leaves salsa far behind when it comes to partner (and music) connection.

Good luck!
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This is perfect answer.. Really appreciate it

About the dating I understand it's not about dancing level only, the guy should be attractive and know how to connect
But bother together will make the Magic that's what I mean

About the bars point .. agree with you 100% as that people who don't dance they see dancers very attractive and most likely to back with girl most of the times unlike the dance floors

But
I do love to go to dance floor more even if there's bigger chance to get girl from the bar but my happiness of dancing bigger than getting girl
And that's why I just go for dance but I'm open for extra option but if this option is not there I'm happy anyway!

About kizomba I feel it actually more than bachata
But I don't know which one to go for

Extra Question
As you are dancer which kind of guys you find them more attractive and most likely it's easier for them to get girls
Kizomba or Bachata dancers?
 
Sabrosura said:
Another factor of getting dates with dancers is the kind of place you go to. You're much more likely to find people that are open to dating in a bar-type dance party (where usually they play a mix of dance styles) than in a "salsa social" in a dance studio - though of course, there are always exceptions, but in general bar parties have a much wider mix of people, whereas studio socials mostly have "hardcore dancers". Some congresses are also great for casual hookups
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Also a great deal depends on: the country in which the OP is based and its culture; the OP's personality, appearance and manner; and the type of women he's looking for. In particular I imagine that in a country with a very different culture to the US or Europe everything related to dating and dance is completely different to many of our experiences.
 
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