One Band's Open Letter to Instructors/DJs

Hey all, Conjunto Oye, a band out here in LA, posted this open letter on their facebook page. The part about bolero struck me because I think I came in on the back end of the era where the bands would play at least one per set, and I never learned how to dance it even though I really like the music. Anyway they address it to L.A. instructors and DJs, but I would surmise that it applies to many scenes worldwide. Anyone have any thoughts to add or any disagreements?

Conjunto Oye said:
This is an open letter to all Los Angeles dance instructors and DJ's.

The world is ever evolving. Trends come and go. Some things stay and others go quickly. Salsa (tropical dance music) has never left us. Though It changes, though it goes through various levels of popularity, it has survived.

It has not died (or at least completely died) because it is a musical art form that deserves to live. It is something that indeed makes life worth living. It is a recharge for your soul. It is important. More than that, it is vital.

As such, it is important to remember that we (as part of the community) have a certain responsibility to make sure that the traditions are passed down correctly to the succeeding generations. As time marches on, most of the masters that created this art form have passed on. We must make sure that what they created doesn't also pass, into oblivion.

This does not mean that you need to be a revivalist. Music is supposed to change. But just because music changes, that does not mean that we can afford to forget rhythms and other key elements that made the music what it is.

Historically the musicians (and authors of this music) have had a symbiotic relationship with dancers. They created the music and the dancers individually found it within themselves to create dance.

Every time a new rhythm was created, the dancers followed. Mambo came from an older rhythm (the guaguanco). The Cha Cha came from the older Danzon. Rhythms of more African origin were refined into modern incarnations (Mozambique, Bomba, Plena, Jala Jala, Comparsa). Every time one of these rhythms came onto the scene, the dancers were able to adapt. The further away from these rhythms (and Africa for that matter) that you get, the further away you get from what Salsa is. Salsa is not supposed to be pop music with tropical window dressing.

It seems that dancers are less and less equipped these days to deal with these rhythms (all of which fall under the umbrella term of "salsa"). There was a time when a band couldn't get away with not playing a Bolero. When a band played a bolero, It was the time of the night when dancers were really able to get close to one another.

Bachata seems to be what dancers use to do this these days, when they want to dance close. That's all well and good. But it is a mistake to let Bachata entirely take the place of these other dances that are part of the salsa tradition. Bachata has very little to do with salsa. It is not salsa. This is not to say that there is no place for Bachata. Dancers want what they want. But give them options. Don't forget to teach dancers how to handle a Cha Cha Cha. Equip them to handle a Bolero. It would be a shame to let these traditions die on our watch.

This is of course just a reminder. We musicians would have nothing without the continued support of promoters, dancers, DJ's, music lovers, and everybody else in the salsa community.
 
Hey all, Conjunto Oye, a band out here in LA, posted this open letter on their facebook page. The part about bolero struck me because I think I came in on the back end of the era where the bands would play at least one per set, and I never learned how to dance it even though I really like the music. Anyway they address it to L.A. instructors and DJs, but I would surmise that it applies to many scenes worldwide. Anyone have any thoughts to add or any disagreements?

2 comments..
I was taught that the name " Rumba " was the umbrella for all of the afore mentioned rhythms/styles .

As to Bolero ; Im more than willing, happy and able, to play and or teach this style.
Point is.. little or no point in playing it, if no one knows what, and or how to dance to this musical style .
The obvious entry point, may be congresses.
 
it is important to remember that we (as part of the community) have a certain responsibility to make sure that the traditions are passed down correctly to the succeeding generations. As time marches on, most of the masters that created this art form have passed on. We must make sure that what they created doesn't also pass, into oblivion.

It's my opinion that the vast majority of people in power on the scene, be they superstars or those successful regionally, neither know nor care about any responsibilities that they may have. The only allegiance and respect they may have is for fellow instructors/promoters. Therefore I can only assume that the above message will fall on deaf ears.

(On the Cuban scene things may be different. I think they do highlight the old dances more, but I don't think they actually play old recordings.)
 
Great open letter, I wish more of this is being said worldwide, trends do indeed come and go, but I am one of those optimists that think that Salsa will survive in some form or the other for generations to come, it'll adapt , evolve just as it has done before. it is after all part of Latin culture. As for dancers not being equipped to deal with the different rhythms of salsa, we've more than discussed the reasons why,prime among them being that there are a lot of instructors teaching just to make a quick buck and don't think that their students need to know anything about the roots of the music....but that's another thread....Optimistic in Seattle!
 
Point is.. little or no point in playing it, if no one knows what, and or how to dance to this musical style .
Yeah it's a negative feedback loop. Why play it if no one dances to it? Why teach people to dance to it if no one is playing it? And so it goes.

DJ Yuca said:
It's my opinion that the vast majority of people in power on the scene, be they superstars or those successful regionally, neither know nor care about any responsibilities that they may have. The only allegiance and respect they may have is for fellow instructors/promoters. Therefore I can only assume that the above message will fall on deaf ears.
Perhaps. But if there's even a 1% chance of making things better and it doesn't cost anything to try then it's worth trying.
 
Yeah it's a negative feedback loop. Why play it if no one dances to it? Why teach people to dance to it if no one is playing it? And so it goes.

I disagree strongly. All instructors who have regular, well-attended classes and/or superstar status have influence. True, they cannot force anyone to like something, and it's probable bolero could never become popular in the way kizomba has. However I'm absolutely confident that there are sufficient salseros who would appreciate learning at the least the basics of bolero to make teaching it worthwhile. Due to its unknown status, the only people who can teach it are instructors who have sufficient regular students/name value already.

Ditto guajira, guaracha and old school mambo in general.

Perhaps. But if there's even a 1% chance of making things better and it doesn't cost anything to try then it's worth trying.

No perhaps about it, but I agree, it's certainly worth trying to improve things.
 
I think the dynamics of the scene are the critical factor in what gets played and what people dance to. IME there are >dance focus< salsa scenes and there are >music focus< salsa scenes.

In the dance focus salsa scenes there will be salsa, bachata and maybe a cha-cha, which might actually be a guajira or a son montuno but cha-cha is what people know how to dance.

In the music focus scenes there will be boleros (not my personal favorite), danzones (I do like those), son and son montuno and all played by live bands.

In the dance focus scenes, the bands, djs and instructors provide what people want to dance to.

In the music focus scenes, the bands and djs provide and then the dancers request that instructors teach the dance so they can express themselves with the flavor of the music.

My anecdote on why the Twin Cities metro is a music focus scene:
A local band added a danzon to their playlist about 7-8 years ago. The first few times they played it, most people were lost but watched how the Cubans (from Cuba) and the trained Cuban dancers (not from Cuba) danced to it. Within a year or so there was hardly anyone who started off with cha-cha when the violins are still playing, they waited for the rhythm section to kick in before they went into the cha-cha step. About 2 years ago a new band started up and their playlist was mostly Son (i.e. to slow for a salsa step). Today they are the most popular local band in the metro and they draw from a much wider crowd then the more traditional salsa bands do.

Another correlation is that people here rarely stick with the dance team thing for very long. They do it to get the free practice time that comes with the (paid) choreography classes and once they have their technique down they quit the team.
 
seems like some salseros have a jealousy towards bachata (musicians,dancers) that genre isn't going anywhere,might as well adapt,i have.

also are their any bolero musicians making music?
 
it simply comes down to this; If there is a dance/music that someone would like it to become the next 'brief' big next thing, then let's ride the salsa wave and piggy our way back to the forefront of the scene as long as the conditions allow it. it's really that simple! We have seen it with reggeaton, bachata and kizomba and we might be seeing it in newer dancer trends (or older ones too, who knows! )The bottom line is ; and I must apologize in advance for saying this since I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feeling , but Joseph Stalin used a term "political idiot" to paint those who unwillingly helped his cause by siding with him and promoted his ideology only to find their demise later on.

I've said it again and I say it now, Mambo/Salsa (and bolero to a certain extent) does not need bachata to survive; they can do just fine on their own as long as we give it the enough respect as a separate musical notation (culture) of it's own. It's really that simple!

My 2 cents!
 
I did some bolero classes in Cali and enjoyed them. It felt like a cross between tango and salsa to me... Not that well attended, though. Nowadays, we have bachatango and so on, and really bachata has taken off because of the bands, the promotion and the basic easiness of the dance (in terms of getting into it).

I also remember some son classes being taught in Tokyo. These were run regularly and had their devotees but the classes were again never that big. There wasn't a critical mass of interest like we saw with bachata in the 80s and 90s, and which laid the foundations for its success on the event circuit today.
 
I did some bolero classes in Cali and enjoyed them. It felt like a cross between tango and salsa to me...

Not that well attended, though.
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If that were the case, then I strongly suspect it was not true to the genre.

Its a simply constructed dance, but... the subtle undertones are very complex, and a "dance " that needs a complete understanding of CBM, and HOW to use it effectively .
 
also are their any bolero musicians making music?

Bolero is an important part of mambo and salsa (and Latin jazz for that matter). It is not a separate genre of music, and even when it was at its most popular (50s I think) I doubt there were any bands who only played bolero. If bands of today are avoiding boleros it's because dancers simply do not know how to dance to it.
 
I also remember some son classes being taught in Tokyo. These were run regularly and had their devotees but the classes were again never that big. There wasn't a critical mass of interest like we saw with bachata in the 80s and 90s, and which laid the foundations for its success on the event circuit today.

It's true the likes of son, bolero, pachanga (which of course has actually been revived), guajira etc are almost certainly never going to be as popular as bachata. They're old dances rather than the latest thing, so they can't really compete. The question is: could they be sufficiently popular to warrant classes and occasional plays at salsa events? I believe yes.

Look at son on the Cuban scene, and pachanga on the slot scene: both old dances, both unknown to the majority, but there have been classes in them and there are people who have learnt them.
 
I think the dynamics of the scene are the critical factor in what gets played and what people dance to. IME there are >dance focus< salsa scenes and there are >music focus< salsa scenes.

Is there anywhere other than Twin Cities that could also be described as a music focus salsa scene? (Not including Cali.)
 
Ray Rodríguez Jala Jala is one I like.

Richie's Jala Jala (Ricardo Ray Bobby Cruz) is a more famous one that's also killer - I think it's the one that started it all off. (I'm sure someone can confirm.)
 
Who can not love this? Pure gold. I miss my Boleros.




Muy hermosa..

i have an album by him thats all Boleros and Danzon/Rumbas.

Im at the point, where I would gladly offer my services to a congress, free ( except expenses ) for a session in Bolero .
One thing for sure, theres a ton of great music out there .
 
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