On1 Timing and the conga

I stopped recommending using that site (is it a site or an app now?) years ago. It was useful for pure beginners and people with hearing disabilities, but there's really no substitute for the real thing.

I suspect the OP can hear the Conga Tumbao well enough and is way past listening to the sterile droning of the salsabeatmachine.
It's both. The site version isn't as hostile.

Yes, I hate that site lol. I also hate the song where they count 1,2,3.... omg.. I want to kill myself everytime I hear that in class.

Agreed. I don't know if it's the voice or what but I have this sudden urge to smash the speaker (or instructor) lol.
 
I break On8 sometimes and the followers did not seem confused at all. Maybe it varies from scene to scene.

A lot of people still mistake the beat 8 accent in Son for beat 1. I am not surprised if Salsa dancers can't distinguish your On8 dancing.

What am I doing.. I told myself I would give up counting long ago and dance purely using instruments.
 
What am I doing.. I told myself I would give up counting long ago and dance purely using instruments.

Unless you are dancing with a timing nazi, most followers will go with the melodic flow. As long as you are overall consistent with the timing, being exact isn't life or death. Dancing only to timing becomes monotonous and boring AF
 
Unless you are dancing with a timing nazi, most followers will go with the melodic flow. As long as you are overall consistent with the timing, being exact isn't life or death. Dancing only to timing becomes monotonous and boring AF

Maybe I know a lot of timing Nazis then. If I decided to dance On3, On5, On6, or On8, I would get called out on it sooner rather than later. Maybe it would happen 1 in 20 dances, but that's enough for me to be mindful of the timing.

Though I'm not bothered these days if I do happen to venture off beat. I have ways to make people forget about what beat we're on. :)
 
I had someone correct me for starting to the right on bachata (as opposed to stepping with the left foot on the 1st beat). Lol i don't see why it would matter so much. One girls also corrected me for dancing On5 (on purpose) to a timba song.
 
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I had someone correct me for starting to the right on bachata (as opposed to stepping with the left foot on the 1st beat). Lol i don't see why it would matter so much. One girls also corrected me for dancing On5 (on purpose) to a timba song.

Psychos. All of them.
 
I had someone correct me for starting to the right on bachata (as opposed to stepping with the left foot on the 1st beat). Lol i don't see why it would matter so much. One girls also corrected me for dancing On5 (on purpose) to a timba song.
Eff that. "On 5" *to the right on beat 1) in bachata feels more natural to me. And I likd bachata on 3.
I see a lot of Cubanos dance on 5, but I have been verbally assaulted in vedadobgor dsncing on the 5.
 
Would you mind posting the song here?


Other than that, I think I have nothing to add to the previous posters. But if you post the song I can tell you if it‘s on the one or not.


Listening to it now, though, I think I do hear the tumbao coming in right before the downbeat. I guess I've just developed stepping on the conga (during my quarentine solo practice time) as a bad habit, because I know that before I could step on the 1 and 5 by following the piano's guajeo, or even the vocals.
 
I had someone correct me for starting to the right on bachata (as opposed to stepping with the left foot on the 1st beat). Lol i don't see why it would matter so much. One girls also corrected me for dancing On5 (on purpose) to a timba song.

Listening to it now, though, I think I do hear the tumbao coming in right before the downbeat. I guess I've just developed stepping on the conga (during my quarentine solo practice time) as a bad habit, because I know that before I could step on the 1 and 5 by following the piano's guajeo, or even the vocals.

Hot song!

Re reading your original question, the followers may actually feel rushed (at least On2). That's why I like On2, the pause in the tumbao +1 gives a nice break.
 
To me this is an very on 1 song. The 1 is easily distinguishable (the loud AF cowbell really helps) and the vocals and other instruments very clearly outline the 1. Although the strong koongkoong gives you the option of either timing.
 

Listening to it now, though, I think I do hear the tumbao coming in right before the downbeat. I guess I've just developed stepping on the conga (during my quarentine solo practice time) as a bad habit, because I know that before I could step on the 1 and 5 by following the piano's guajeo, or even the vocals.
Yes, it's quite the normal conga marcha, strictly following the clave.
Means on the first bar its a "tum-tum" on "4" and "4-and", on the second bar just a "tum" on the four.
I understand why it might confuse you, the conga is quite loud - at least those beats.
But the slaps on 2 are not so easy to hear, that's why dancing on 2 might be difficult, too.
Perhaps if you focus on the clave or the brass in the beginning you might hear or feel the one better?
 
I would say it's useful for the first couple of beginner classes, but beyond that, I'd move on to a real Salsa song.
It's an aid that can quickly turn into a crutch if used excessively.
I don't see the point of the "and" in the last moment. Is that for ET on 2 dancers?
 
To me this is an very on 1 song. The 1 is easily distinguishable (the loud AF cowbell really helps) and the vocals and other instruments very clearly outline the 1. Although the strong koongkoong gives you the option of either timing.

Except that part from 1:17 - 2:10 where it's quite hard to find the 1. I was listening for the Clave during that part. But to me the piano makes me want to break off and do my own thing.
 
I don't see the point of the "and" in the last moment. Is that for ET on 2 dancers?

I don't know, but I think you're right. That and-one-two-three count sounds like a swing count, which is something I commonly associate with ET2 timing. But I have a feeling that song was made for On1 dancers.
 
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