My dumb moves

ok, reading the thread I was like 'hey, I do that...........I do that too........and that............'


So all I can say is that a lot of my dancing could be construed as 'dumb' he he but man I am loving it!
 
Most of the time when a move goes wrong, I'll just try to play it off.... but sometimes when a move goes really wrong, I'll stick my tongue out. :P I usually smile right after that, so that the follower knows I'm just having fun and not insulting her (plus, it's usually my fault anyway).
 
My partner in life has a small stock of dumb moves she brings out when I am least expecting them. She has always been a great teaser. One of them is that sinking down sorta thing la gringa describes. The lead can't prevent it in most situations and she's got control until she comes up .... it's especially funny when to do this the lady ducks down out of some hold or other.

Another is that common move when from two-hands open hold I do a half turn and wrap her arms round my waist while I change hands. She hangs on and cocks her leg round mine from behind.

There are others but what she's trying to do is hijack so I have a problem to solve and I bust out laughing.

But girls, no more than once in a dance, huh?!
 
I've gotten into that habbit too, mostly on underarm turns. Haven't seen it on video, but I bet it looks like I'm trying to be a little teacup :) (oh and it looks like Jolinia does it too)...can I blame this one on all the short latino guys around here? :eyebrow:

Yeah, guilty of this one too ;)
I guess I just don't like getting stuck with my head in a guy's sweaty armpit.
 
My partner in life has a small stock of dumb moves she brings out when I am least expecting them. She has always been a great teaser. One of them is that sinking down sorta thing la gringa describes. The lead can't prevent it in most situations and she's got control until she comes up .... it's especially funny when to do this the lady ducks down out of some hold or other.

Another is that common move when from two-hands open hold I do a half turn and wrap her arms round my waist while I change hands. She hangs on and cocks her leg round mine from behind.

There are others but what she's trying to do is hijack so I have a problem to solve and I bust out laughing.

But girls, no more than once in a dance, huh?!

hmm...put me down for all of the above...I don't see anything wrong with any of those moves, though...and once a dance is not nearly enough! :)
 
Huh? Salseras channeling snoop? I can't picture this. Do you mean the one where she drops to a squat and then bounces back up quickly? or the chest-thrust thingy?
I dont know the chest thrust thingy so I'm gonna go with A. Any sort of bottom dropping move. I think Ive seen Edie do it. But I can't think of a known name to summon up that does it on the regular. Guess that's an open niche for me!! (NOT) Meanwhile, I split my pants the last time I tried it. So uhmmm... yea. :rolleyes: I need a different dumb move idea.
 
I've got a new 'dumb move' where I turn myself, putting the follow's hand on my neck. But instead of releasing it there so it sweeps around my neck, I hold it lightly with my fingers, so her arm pulls us in close as I finish my turn. A couple partners seem to think it's cute (or else they're too polite to complain:roll:).
 
I've got a new 'dumb move' where I turn myself, putting the follow's hand on my neck. But instead of releasing it there so it sweeps around my neck, I hold it lightly with my fingers, so her arm pulls us in close as I finish my turn. A couple partners seem to think it's cute (or else they're too polite to complain:roll:).

I've been subjected to numerous variations fo this. It's all right :)
 
I used to, maybe still do, turn my head in the direction I'm leading the girl. Like in a CBL I turn my head to the left. If I turn the girl to the left, I might turn my head to her left. Wierd. I have gotten some compliments from the girls about it though. Seems it makes it easier to follow me when I do it, so I haven't been too quick to lose it.
 
I used to, maybe still do, turn my head in the direction I'm leading the girl. Like in a CBL I turn my head to the left. If I turn the girl to the left, I might turn my head to her left. Wierd. I have gotten some compliments from the girls about it though. Seems it makes it easier to follow me when I do it, so I haven't been too quick to lose it.

Is that a dumb move or is that looking to make sure that she has room to dance in the spot that you are leading her to?
 
I used to, maybe still do, turn my head in the direction I'm leading the girl. Like in a CBL I turn my head to the left. If I turn the girl to the left, I might turn my head to her left. Wierd. I have gotten some compliments from the girls about it though. Seems it makes it easier to follow me when I do it, so I haven't been too quick to lose it.

Sounds like what this teacher says in class, only he talks about pointing his hand or fingers in the direction he wants the follow to go. He is right, that it is in his head that she will know the way his fingers point (or maybe other follows have a better sense of the leads fingers & their direction). Seems to be a good tip for leading, though. The head pointing doesnt seem bad unless it gets you messed up directionally. LOL
 
I was going to mention that I have been keeping my hand or arm in back of my back during turns. Which often leads to looks from the lead like I am strange to do that. However, I started this as a solution to the how do I know when the lead wants my hand where he left it (kind of dumb when spelled out)! Now, my hand is in back of my back and Tuesday night someone told me it was right where it was supposed to be. That was a 1st! But typically, I get looks KWIM.
 
I was going to mention that I have been keeping my hand or arm in back of my back during turns. Which often leads to looks from the lead like I am strange to do that. However, I started this as a solution to the how do I know when the lead wants my hand where he left it (kind of dumb when spelled out)! Now, my hand is in back of my back and Tuesday night someone told me it was right where it was supposed to be. That was a 1st! But typically, I get looks KWIM.

Most often if the lead places your hand behind your back in the half-nelson position, that's where he expects to find it. He may have done a spin or turn himself meanwhile and if so, won't have been able to give you an additional clue which is: trailing his hand round your waist as you spin or turn. That way you know where his hand is and that's where you'll pick it up again. It's just the same principle as when he trails your hand round his waist or neck - so that he knows where to find it again instantly.

If you were to remove it coming out of your turn, he'd have reason to mutter under his breath.

If he wants your hand somewhere else after your turn then he should offer his clearly and with time for you to respond gracefully.

If however you're placing your hand behind your back all by yourself when the lead hasn't put it there ..... well, that's a dumb move!

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This doesn't always hold for leads though. It's often a good plan for the lead to put his free hand behind his back, concealing it from the follow's view, if he doesn't want to follow to look to take it as she comes out of a turn. If his free hand's waving about in front of her, she's likely to try to take it (which is what she should be doing). An alternative is for him to place his free hand on his hip so it's clear that it is not on offer.
 
I was going to mention that I have been keeping my hand or arm in back of my back during turns. Which often leads to looks from the lead like I am strange to do that. However, I started this as a solution to the how do I know when the lead wants my hand where he left it (kind of dumb when spelled out)! Now, my hand is in back of my back and Tuesday night someone told me it was right where it was supposed to be. That was a 1st! But typically, I get looks KWIM.

I've been doing that to keep the arm out of the way. No one has ever complained, but I always feel a bit crowded with the arm in front while spinning. Haven't gotten strange looks, but it does confuse some followers when they try to wrap around my waist and find an arm there. Half of them shrug it off, the other half grab the arm and then don't quite know what to do with it. It's amusing. But I'm trying to stop :)
 
If you were to remove it coming out of your turn, he'd have reason to mutter under his breath.

If he wants your hand somewhere else after your turn then he should offer his clearly and with time for you to respond gracefully.

If however you're placing your hand behind your back all by yourself when the lead hasn't put it there ..... well, that's a dumb move!
Definitely. If the lead puts your hand somewhere, he expects it to stay there. He's probably got something up his sleeve. The general rule is that he has 8 beats to retrieve the hand. After that you can take your hand back and do what you want with it. I think that rule is a bit limiting though. I think it should be at least 2 8 counts before you reclaim ownership of your hand. The best and most advanced followers keep their hand where I put it indefinitely. The ones who take their hand away and chide me for complaining are generally of the high level intermediate variety.
This doesn't always hold for leads though. It's often a good plan for the lead to put his free hand behind his back, concealing it from the follow's view, if he doesn't want to follow to look to take it as she comes out of a turn.
It should be very clear that the leader wants the hand. If it's not clear, she shouldn't take it. When I want to make sure my follower doesn't grab my hand, I make it difficult for her to take it, sometimes by balling it into a fist. There are some moves that I put my hand behind my back and expect the girl to take it from there, say just before she does a CBL. I have a couple of cool moves that require this. But sometimes I don't want the girl to take the hand, so I put that hand into a fist.
If his free hand's waving about in front of her, she's likely to try to take it (which is what she should be doing). An alternative is for him to place his free hand on his hip so it's clear that it is not on offer.
Or to make it clear that he doesn't want it.
 
i sometimes become indecisive so i end up trying to do like two different moves at the same time lol

moreso i have this move where i just stand right in front of the girl on her CBL step to supposedly stop her in her tracks back to her basic on time ....Junior Alabi taught me it

I like it but too many times i would butt heads with her lol
 
Here's another. When I get tired my lead gets reaaaally sloppy, to the point where my partner is sometimes left standing there wondering what the hell I'm doing. Being less of a gentlemen (with arms like pipe cleaners) has been one of the hardest things to learn. It's getting better though.
 
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...because I will not be the one to kill this thread! :P It's too good to die young anyway. :)

lol@ the butting heads thing ptwist. Have done that too but mostly end up whacking followers in the back of the head trying to do those fancy arm over moves.
 
My latest dumb move for the T-stance:

On 1 I lift my right leg backwards. On 2,3 I jump on my left foot because my right foot in stuck in my skirt and I can't move my right foot anymore. On 5,6,7 I kneel down to free my foot. Well, it is a way to get out to the T-stance, not very elegant tough ;)

Definitely not going into my regular repertoire. :)
 
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