But Bachata is basically a dominican interpretation of Bolero
Has dancing restarted in your place ? Are masks used ? Are you dancing socially as of today ?
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Only reason not to play any bachata is to pander (had to look up that word on google
I don't think I'm religious about Salsa (haven't been sworn in yet), but Bachata and Salsa for me are world's apart.
I have never seen this happen in all my life. Every good Salsa dancer I know started with Salsa.
I'm pretty sure the traffic goes mostly in the direction of Salsa --> Bachata.
Disagree. Bachata with good bachata music is welcome. Same with Merenge, Timba, Cha and even Reggaeton. It just adds to diversity.
Can not donce some of them, but if music is good, I am willing to just listen to itAnd look at others, who dance them really well
But, please, please, not these remixes from some underground kids, who pretend to be musicians after 1 month of PC course
If you are going out for salsa night, for the life of me, why would you want to listen to the mix music. There are Latin nights for that at the regular nightclubs. At least where I live. So going for dancing salsa means, pure salsa. No adulteration. Thankfully that is what we get when an event is advertised as "salsa" here. If it says salsa and bachata then you can expect about 70% salsa and 30% bachata.
Before my salsa days, I often use to go to Latin nights at the regular nightclubs with friends. There used to be plenty of mix music. 60% Reggaeton, 20% of Merengue, remaining 20% mix of Latin pop, salsa, etc. Bachata wasn't popular nor played at the nightclubs. I haven't been to Latin nightclub in almost 12 years. I am sure they play more bachata music. Back in those days, there would be three or four regular nightclubs that would have Latin rooms on Fri and Saturday attracting a crowd of 500-600 each within few kilometers of each other. If you expand the radius to 40 miles (metro area), the Latin nightclubs will number in 20 to 30 each on Fri and Sat.
It's usually easy to tell from the event description what kind of music they will play. For me pure salsa, salsa and bachata, latin night are all fine.
Event descriptions have been known to deceive. I am at the point where even if an event says pure 'Salsa', I still expect 30% Bachata. Pure Salsa nights are EXTREMELY rare in this region, and with the shift in dance climate and the desire to hold another human being at an all time high, I'm expecting Sensual to remain the dominant lifeform for a while.
I think we have to define "mix of music". What does "pure salsa" includes? Does it include pachanga, cha, son? Salsa romantica? Timba? If not, then I would say it is very boring music for party (still better than 100% bachata party, but still). If yes, why not bachata? And we are not talking about 30% bachata. May be just a bit more than cha and son (because more people can and are willing to dance them).
Bachata party means 90% bachata remixes, 5% bachata and 5% salsa romantica BallroomSalsa
Changui
Back to the thread topic! Salsa Mish in St Albans last night. Lateral flow test needed to get in (pointless but a minor inconvenience). No masks required, only saw one person wearing one. Because the venue is at ground level in a sports hall, it was easy to have plenty of ventilation by opening doors and windows. A good evening but numbers massively down on pre Covid levels. A lot of people are still scared to go out. This is a serious threat to the salsa scene; if dancers don't support promoters holding events then they will disappear and one shouldn't assume that they'll come back in the future.
Same here. I would say event participation is down to 25% pre-Covid in some places. Even though I enjoy seeing less people at certain places especially the events that were notorious for being Zootopias, I would rather things not get to a point where events are canceled.
bailar y tocar
Son Montuno
I went to the Miami Salsa Congress last night. Lots of people dancing in 3 rooms of music. I saw 2-3 people with masks in a room with 200-300 people. I doubt if everyone is vaccinated. Vaccination rates in Florida among the younger set are less than 40%.
That said, the congress was so-so. The music was tolerable but not great. The dancing was tolerable but not great. The cost of attendance with a single night ticket was exorbitant. 2x $55 for both of us, they did not have a discount for concert and dancing only. Parking was also really expensive at $20 flat rate for 24 hours but we were only there for 4 hours. I will not bother with this one in future years, not worth the money.
I will be traveling to the Chicago Salsa Congress weekender next week.
That said, the congress was so-so. The music was tolerable but not great. The dancing was tolerable but not great. The cost of attendance with a single night ticket was exorbitant. 2x $55 for both of us, they did not have a discount for concert and dancing only. Parking was also really expensive at $20 flat rate for 24 hours but we were only there for 4 hours. I will not bother with this one in future years, not worth the money.
I will be traveling to the Chicago Salsa Congress weekender next week.
I am so glad we line in different universes and you live in an alien universe
I have posted various videos of bachata in my scene. You will notice that neither the music nor the dance is sensual. 90% music is straight up old school bachata when it is played.
I have to go check out what bachata party is these days. Haven't been to one in 8 years. Usually lawyer bachata parties had smaller salsa room so no salsa music ever got played in bachata room. There are some large salsa parties which have different room for bachata and therefore no bachata music.
Right now I know of only one night club that is devoted to salsa. It has a large salsa room with live band and another not that big for bachata. Both get packed. However due to multiple reasons most of the good salsa dancers avoid going there. All other bachata and salsa events are in not club settings. I don't limited about Times scene much. It has its own venues.
Most dancers and the main bachata instructors don't dance or teach bachata. You can see some people try to do typical sensual moves but I don't think they know or can dance full on sensual. Since a follower can't dance sensual without leader leading there moves, those leaders who try to do sensual type stuff hardly have followers on whom to try their moves.
I have noticed once in a while DJ try to play sensual type music. Also a few hardcore salsa organizers are for some reason fascinated by sensual at individual level (trying to learn) after being to festivals in Europe and Asia. I had arguments with them about it but they like it as a separate dance. They love salsa too much keeping their events and the music DJ is instructed to play hardcore enough that most latin@s and other non-on2 crowd complains about too much salsa dura type music and not enough romantica. Occasional romantica of played usually tends to be good danceable one that blends well with dura.
Yep, same here. Except no Salsa Romantica. So it's more like 95% Bachata remixes and 5% actual Bachata music.
I have even seen couples go into empty rooms after the DJ leaves, turn on Bachata remixes and continue to dance bad Bachata for another hour or so. It's ridiculous.
Bachata parties outlast Salsa parties here. I stay till the end of most parties because I like to be the last one standing, so I see all the dirty after-party deeds.
I've seen a couple of videos posted from the Salsa Social at Empire Mambo in NYC. It seems to be all Salsa?
But then again, I consider anything above 80% Salsa (with 20% other crap) an ALL Salsa night.
Hmmm.. I will have to check it out. I have yet to find a place that only does Salsa. I get why they play the other stuff but I just sit that out.
I'm beginning to think it's a good idea to have silent parties where you put on headphones. There you could have a mixed party but with multiple channels for Salsa and Bachata or whatever. Everyone is happy and you can dance to whatever you please.
1derpalm
Son Montuno
Then the peacocks would wither and die.
Pretty awesome to have 30% Cha
I don't know. I don't like sitting out 66% of the time...
Sunday social was 99% mambo/salsa music. Except the second last song where someone requested DJ to play Bachata. By which time most of the people had left. Later while out eating I asked the DJ who made a request for Bachata. I guessed it must be some ladies. I was right. He said there were two bachateras at the social.
I don't mind off bachata. But if he had played sensual crap, I would have given him a hard time