its good when orchestras team up with Rumba bands....enjoying this music video with Maykel Blanco, Yoruba Andabo and Maykel Fonts
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its good when orchestras team up with Rumba bands....enjoying this music video with Maykel Blanco, Yoruba Andabo and Maykel Fonts
traditional dancing is the foundation of rumba
1derpalm
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Interesting tidbit I didn't know. I thought it was Americans and Brits.
Richie Blondet
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The latter got it from the former. Seems like a handful of White Cuban pro-dance performers (ballroom) were quoted in the press of the era (1910-1919) that weren't actually familiar with the folkloric aspects of Afro-Cuban culture, name-dropped the term to define what the dances accompanying the music (Danzon, Cancion/Bolero, etc) were. It got repeated from there. "Cubanola" was an earlier label for all things music and dance of Cuban origin.
U.S. society has always bogarted and re-christened World cultures into a single brand. That, and not a Venezuelan DJ in the 1960s, has more to do with why the term "Salsa" became one of many labels given to Afro-Cuban music in the 20th century. Because the Venezuelan consumer market never universally identified Afro Cuban music as "Salsa," until it began to emanate as such out of the U.S. market.
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Bienvenido Granda & La Sonora Matancera - Sujetate La Lengua (1954)
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Johnny Pacheco - El Pescador (1967)
It clearly starts like these guaguancós, both in piano guajeo and singing, later it's less clear. Labeled mambo-son on the LP.
It clearly starts like these guaguancós, both in piano guajeo and singing, later it's less clear. Labeled mambo-son on the LP.
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Here's a somewhat similar one, Daniel Santos Con Los Jovenes Del Cayo - Allá En La Timba (1951); this was apparently later erroneously published as a recording with Sonora Matancera. Also starts with the "lalelolei" and distinctive piano riff. It's very fast, and the percussion feels (indistinctly) rumba-like to me later on, but I wouldn't know how to make that precise...
some how, this one sounds similar to me when they are totally different songs, especially rhythmically....nevertheless, this one feels more rumba to me
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This seems to fit here (not sure if already posted)
La mulata rumbera, composed by Alejandro Rodríguez
E.g.:
El Sabor de Nacho - Mulato rumbero (1976?); the "salsa guaguancó" with some calling out to rumba
Carlos Embale - Soy el mulato rumbero (1970s probably per Areito catalog numbers); proper rumba guaguancó
But the song is older, discogs has this 1932 recording by Don Azpiazu https://www.discogs.com/release/129...-The-Negress-Rumba-The-Folk-Dance-Of-San-Juan, possibly this one:
I recognize the song, but not particularly either kind of guaguancó in there.
La mulata rumbera, composed by Alejandro Rodríguez
E.g.:
El Sabor de Nacho - Mulato rumbero (1976?); the "salsa guaguancó" with some calling out to rumba
Carlos Embale - Soy el mulato rumbero (1970s probably per Areito catalog numbers); proper rumba guaguancó
But the song is older, discogs has this 1932 recording by Don Azpiazu https://www.discogs.com/release/129...-The-Negress-Rumba-The-Folk-Dance-Of-San-Juan, possibly this one:
1derpalm
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Rumba came first but they evolved it I guess. Since they were the first rumba I heard, I obviously didn't know better lllplloll)
DJ Yuca
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You only have 2984 years to wait.
1derpalm
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Richie Blondet
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It starts out Guaguançó and then morphs into a montuno.
Richie Blondet
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There's a Maria Teresa Vera recording from the early 1920s that precedes the Chano Pozo led session.
Richie Blondet
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There's no Rumba rhythmical element in the Azpiazu recording. The chorus is simply echoing "La Rumba," among other references to Afro Cuban culture. It's like "La Esencia del Guaguancó" not being a literal guaguancó. They're just celebrating it.
Like I mentioned before, musical labels or tags are intended to provide direction for an interpreter and the consumer. What an artist does with it once they "take command" of it can go in any direction the interpreter chooses. Leaving it up to the consumer to either invest in the direction it went in.... or nah. Variety is music production 101. How not to keep a music stale.
rob88
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I just hear rumba on tumbadoras, no montuno on tumbadoras.