Don't focus just about Mambo or Salsa on2 because that's just 20% of what the salsa word means for real

Ladies and gentlemen, if you speak (or understand) Spanish, check out Calixto Oviedo's timba classes on Facebook. He just started last night and he was there for the whole thing. He was a central part pf it and worked with so many of the major players. So I am going to send him questions about some stuff that has come up in this thread - what did Cubans listen to jn the 60s and 70s, was Van Van more pop/rock in the 70s? etc so he can tell us what exactly was happening. I started a thread in the music section with the first video. It's not a "sit down and look at power points" type of class, it's him talking about what timba is and talking about what bands were doing good stuff back in the early 70s.
 
DJ Yuca said:
I've just finished rereading Los rostros de la salsa which includes an interview with Formell. The only non-Cuban musicians he mentions listening to in his youth are Elvis Presley and the Beatles.
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Fats domino was mentioned by him in a video from when they won the gramy.
DJ Yuca said:
Who does he mention? (I'm sure Irakere and Van Van.)
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Yes but a whole ton of other groups. I need to go back and write them all down I guess but there were many groups he mentioned. One of the groups he was in early on was Grupo Acheré and he plays one of their songs from 73. If you speak spanish you caould watch the first video. It's about 40 minutes
 
timberamayor said:
Ladies and gentlemen, if you speak (or understand) Spanish, check out Calixto Oviedo's timba classes on Facebook. He just started last night and he was there for the whole thing. He was a central part pf it and worked with so many of the major players. So I am going to send him questions about some stuff that has come up in this thread - what did Cubans listen to jn the 60s and 70s, was Van Van more pop/rock in the 70s? etc so he can tell us what exactly was happening. I started a thread in the music section with the first video. It's not a "sit down and look at power points" type of class, it's him talking about what timba is and talking about what bands were doing good stuff back in the early 70s.
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https://www.salsaforums.com/threads/calixto-oviedo-timba-series-in-spanish.40357/

Link for the lazy.
 
timberamayor said:
Fats domino was mentioned by him in a video from when they won the gramy.
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Fats is another candidate for making perfect pop songs. As well as being highly successful at the time in terms of record sales (his sales were literally millions and millions) and an influence on the Beatles and other British pop bands, he was highly influential on the JA ska and early reggae scene. And Formell listened to him as well. Not bad.

timberamayor said:
Yes but a whole ton of other groups. I need to go back and write them all down I guess but there were many groups he mentioned. One of the groups he was in early on was Grupo Acheré and he plays one of their songs from 73. If you speak spanish you caould watch the first video. It's about 40 minutes
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Better you make the list for me please. Grupo Acheré have 3 tracks on YT but they have respectively 5, 29 and 161 views, which lends credence to my hypothesis that Cuban music of the 1970s has with very few exceptions been largely discarded and forgotten. I've listened to all 3 tracks and can't say any of them do anything for me on first hearing although I'm sure they're great musicians and they were trying to do something progressive with son by updating it for the 1970s, perhaps paving the way for timba's arrival years later.

(Incidentally there's another Grupo Acheré that have 1 vid up but they're a contemporary group from Peru.)
 
DJ Yuca said:
Fats is another candidate for making perfect pop songs. As well as being highly successful at the time in terms of record sales (his sales were literally millions and millions) and an influence on the Beatles and other British pop bands, he was highly influential on the JA ska and early reggae scene. And Formell listened to him as well. Not bad.



Better you make the list for me please. Grupo Acheré have 3 tracks on YT but they have respectively 5, 29 and 161 views, which lends credence to my hypothesis that Cuban music of the 1970s has with very few exceptions been largely discarded and forgotten. I've listened to all 3 tracks and can't say any of them do anything for me on first hearing although I'm sure they're great musicians and they were trying to do something progressive with son by updating it for the 1970s, perhaps paving the way for timba's arrival years later.

(Incidentally there's another Grupo Acheré that have 1 vid up but they're a contemporary group from Peru.)
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OK I'll go back through and watch it again and try to make a list. Some people in the comments were mentioning other groups that he hadn't mentioned but he was saying that those groups came later.
 
Thanks! If you have time go ahead but don't worry if you can't as I'm just being lazy myself. I think the music in question is only really of interest to those who were there at the time (although worth a listen in case of any unknown gems).

Or maybe Calixto's talk will inspire a revival of Grupo Acheré and other forgotten 1970s Cuban groups. I doubt it but anything is possible.

(Obviously Irakere are already well-regarded, including their 1970s stuff, and 1970s Van Van still has some popularity.)
 
Better paint my apartment as well. And can you also make a short trip to the market for me? My specialty guy has some jars of Luxardo (non dyed) Marasca cherries.
I'll pay you back after quarantine and economic slump.
 
IF anyone seriously is interested about the 60s and the rock era, Calixto will be addressing that tonight starting at 12:30pm California time. He said:
"Tomorrow I start talking about the 60s. Rock reigned in Cuba. Especially the Beatles. I was a Rokero myself and played in many Night clubs until 63, when Mozambique and Pilon arrived."

The Facebook video format allows people to ask him direct questions as well, rather than me sending him questions, so if you speak Spanish it is a golden opportunity to talk to someone who was an active musician during that period.

His Facebook page

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WTF!! I just saw a video of a venezuelan youtuber yesterday who posted a video of her dancing to a song by Guaco. What a coincidence that you guys post it here the next day. This was the song
Would not have paid attention to it unless you guys mentioned them here lol.
 
TikiTaka said:
WTF!! I just saw a video of a venezuelan youtuber yesterday who posted a video of her dancing to a song by Guaco. What a coincidence that you guys post it here the next day. This was the song
Would not have paid attention to it unless you guys mentioned them here lol.
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Do you guys consider this a timba? Didn't like it at first because it has a pop feel but now i think it's really catchy.
 
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