matty
Son Montuno
Puerto rican Singer Ismael Rivera (of cortijo y su combo) also spent time in Jail i believe, he sings about it in his song "la Carcel" (the jail). its fairly upbeat too, I could see someone performing to this.
and to continue in the gangland theme, you could check out some music from Colombian singer Piper Pimienta ( of "the Latin brothers") and also Puerto Rican Chamaco Ramirez (who performed with Tommy Olivencia for a time before going solo) and Chano Pozo (from Dizzy Gillespie's band) each of these artists tragically died by gunshot in sort of gang violence scenarios.
As for specific songs by these artists that deal with those topics, I cant point to any right now but their music and their life story might provide you with some food for thought.
Junio Jein, a contemporary Colombian urban music vocalist also died in a nightclub shooting just a few months ago, It was a big shock. he has some Salsa-esque urban music. "salsa choke"
Though Colombia has some problems with gang violence, my take on it is that it isnt something that is glamourised in the music the way you might see elsewhere. They tend to sing about more positive things
"las Caleñas son como las flores" is a song by The Latin brothers which is tribute to the women of Cali
maybe that has a place somewhere in the story
Yes, of course, I 've watched all the seasons except of the last one, but there is a big difference between the series and my stories.
In the series the gringos always win (which made me yell at my TV) and in my stories their asses are properly kicked by the narcos.
Don Gabriel and his guys will have a happy ending and gringos can't bear that.
Here is the last part of the tale:
On the morning of the big day he came to prison and helped them change, then escorted them to the autobus that was to take them to Miami, where the contest took place. He was immensely proud of them all and of himself as well, because he managed to arrange the plane and get the weapons.
His prediction that they would win in their category came true, and they earned a loud applause from the audience and the judges, what made them very happy, but even happier they were when Gabriel gave them weapons and they killed the guards that went with them.
They stole cars and went to the runway, where the pilot was waiting for them with a small private plane. They went to Meta-Guaviare region in Colombia, because that was where the Rivas brothers came from, and bought a couple of coca fields with the money Gabriel earned from selling his dance studio in Florida.
The trouble was that they didn't have much left to build proper production labs, but one day, while walking around their coca plantations, Gabriel met a man who was also patrolling his own field, and it turned out he was the boss of the most powerful cartel in that area, Cayetano Vargas Moreno.
When Gabriel explained how he met his associates and entered the business, Cayetano seemed amused and intrigued, so he told him to come with his friends to a nearby salsa bar so that they could meet with him and his brother Ovidio to talk about business.
As they didn't have labs, Cayetano offered him they could use his for a certain percentage of either the product or the earnings from the sale until they manage to build their own. Gabriel was grateful and promised he would talk to the Rivas brothers about his offer.
Julio and Rodrigo were very pleased with the outcome of his conversation with one of the most prominet Colombian narcos, so, when the night came, the two groups of cocaine producers met at the salsa bar. Gabriel and the two of them made an agreement with the Vargas Moreno brothers and his men, then they celebrated it by drinking and dancing together.
Gabriel enjoyed dancing with the Vargas Morenos and thanked his friends for including him in their plans that changed his life forever.
Some time later, Los Malvados cartel bought more land and built their own production labs thanks to the money they earned, but they still maintained close friendship with the Vargas Moreno cartel.
I imagined the closure of the story like this:
Gabriel was chilling in the terrace of his mansion smoking Cuban cigars and drinking rum with his friends, all dressed in Versace bathrobes and wearing loads of gold. When Julio's friend Fidel came to talk to them and saw them relaxing like they had no care in the world, he asked if there was anyone in the house who was actually doing something else apart from being lazy.
Gabriel told him yes and pointed at him, telling him he was the one who should call some buyers and he asked why he, when Gabriel was the boss. Gabriel joked that because being a boss he could do whatever he wanted, but then asked him to bring him his cellphone and join them.
Fidel said he received a call from Cayetano Vargas's lieutenant Alfonso to a dance night in the salsa bar and and of course, they couldn't refuse. The two groups met at the bar and Cayetano told the DJ to play the song Los Malvados danced to on their contest, then invited them to dance with his men.
Remaining true to themselves, Los Malvados will be elegant men in black. Gabriel took care of that part from the outside of course
matty
Son Montuno
oh! I must have missed that part.
latino men uninterested in romance? my suspension of disbelief is being tested here, but ok.
one of them maybe but all of them? Im not seeing it. Im sure some of them would have a wife or something even if it wasn't part of the story.
oh! I must have missed that part.
latino men uninterested in romance? my suspension of disbelief is being tested here, but ok.
one of them maybe being like maybe but all of them? Im not seeing it.
I want it that way because I too am like that. I only do gay romance in Harry Potter fanfiction, but I don't do any in my original works. I am no good at that.
DJ Yuca
Son Montuno
What about some sort of hybrid mixing gay Harry Potter fanfiction and Colombian narco salsa dancers? It would very probably be unique.
NOPE. My HP fanfiction has nothing to do with my original works. Hahaha
bailar y tocar
Son Montuno
Yes indeed. The real life narcos had lots of women hanging around. Even the "tame" Cali cartel, the one that hired the police instead of bombing them like the Medellin cartel did, would make the world unsafe for very attractive young women. If a narco wants someone's beautiful (under age) daughter, he gets her or else the family leaves town.oh! I must have missed that part.
latino men uninterested in romance? my suspension of disbelief is being tested here, but ok.
one of them maybe but all of them? Im not seeing it. Im sure some of them would have a wife or something even if it wasn't part of the story.
I do get it though that TV series glorify crime gangs. That is what fascinates people.
Also, Colombian prisons back in the heat of the narco era did have suites for head narcos and women were able to enter/ were provided for the narcos pleasure. So again, real life narcos were def not asexual.
Yes, I am familiar with those facts cause I 've watched the series, but in my stories the things are as I want them to be. And, Los Malvados were in American federal prison not Colombian.
In fiction the author shapes the world and characters as they want them to be, that is why it is called fiction not reality. I love my stories just the way they are and don't think it is a problem my characters are in love with their work.
Also, I really can't do romances well, it is not my area. And now I will quote the song Dinero by J. Lo, Cardi B and DJ Khalid:
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I cannot picture an all-male group of Latinos going to a regular salsa club to dance with each other. How would that work? Sure, there are male followers (is this also the case in Colombia?) but somehow I don't think this is what you mean.
They are friends and business partners, so why wouldn't they dance together? It is perfectly normal.
Will they dance in couples?
More like a group
oh! I must have missed that part.
latino men uninterested in romance? my suspension of disbelief is being tested here, but ok.
one of them maybe but all of them? Im not seeing it. Im sure some of them would have a wife or something even if it wasn't part of the story.
THERE YOU ARE!
From a dancing standpoint, I think it makes more sense that they dance solo. There can be a choreographer present, but IMO it would fit the theme better if they did a shine routine or like a Salsa battle of sorts. Like a Salsa version of Michael Jackson's dangerous routine.
Visually, it could look something like this, but in a club and with suits of course.
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matty
Son Montuno
right, I didn't say it was necessary for the plot in fact I said it wasn't necessary for the plot. but in terms of believability I would be surprised to see no reference to any relationships in such a setting. But hey its your story and you have what you want to say with it, and that has to be respected
bailar y tocar
Son Montuno
I guess they could be transgender latinos. Maybe that would work while the hormone treatments have not reached full effect.
OK this makes more sense though it is still more a performance than something they would do spontaneously. Probably more like a salsa battle like here:
Just if you want to know what it really is like, see here:
I would say, watch some videos, pick the elements that appeal to you, write about these and discard the rest. But pick at least something that is a bit realistic, you need something that the reader can identify with to draw them in. If it's too unbelievable it will not be taken seriously.
BTW could it be possible to make them go to a party in somebody's house or neighborhood instead. That would be a more informal setting where they can chat, drink, enjoy the music, show each other some steps, which can grow into something like a salsa battle.