What would it take for salsa to have a revival?

The events I havdxzces to are 44% salsa snd Bzchata, the rest merengue, or 40% salsa, 45 bachata, and even split of merengue and kizomba. The only straight salsa option I have is a 6 hour round trip.
A lot of merengue?

So without long drive, you can dance salsa only 40% of the time. If I had all bad options like that, I would sit out the most of the evening. And dance only salsa songs. May be throw in a few bachata and merengue. You could have pact with good salsa followers to look out for each other when salsa gets played.
 
Rauw Alejandro's new album has this banger as the closing track. Probably firmly in the camp of too hard for the linear crowd, but wow

Btw. reminds me of two tracks I heard years ago: Massilia y Cuba by by Conjunto Massalia and Alex Wilson cover of Englishman in New York. Both are interesting to listen to, but not really appropriate for dancing. I don't think any of these tracks are hardcore, but I don't have good definition of that.
 
Btw. reminds me of two tracks I heard years ago: Massilia y Cuba by by Conjunto Massalia and Alex Wilson cover of Englishman in New York. Both are interesting to listen to, but not really appropriate for dancing. I don't think any of these tracks are hardcore, but I don't have good definition of that.
Why do you think the Rauw Alejandro track is not appropriate for dancing.

May be it is good I don’t understand the lyrics. The video shows butcher cutting meat and it being cooked. So if the lyrics are about meat chopping and food making, that can feel funny to dance to.

I listened to it second time and got an idea of dancing it another way. The vocals in the song are overpowering the instruments. That makes lyrical melody louder than the rhythm played by instruments. First time I played it, my brain focused on the rhythm and how that can be danced. The second time it couldn’t ignore the vocals and resulting melody. It is interesting how we hear the music.
 
Why do you think the Rauw Alejandro track is not appropriate for dancing.

May be it is good I don’t understand the lyrics. The video shows butcher cutting meat and it being cooked. So if the lyrics are about meat chopping and food making, that can feel funny to dance to.

I listened to it second time and got an idea of dancing it another way. The vocals in the song are overpowering the instruments. That makes lyrical melody louder than the rhythm played by instruments. First time I played it, my brain focused on the rhythm and how that can be danced. The second time it couldn’t ignore the vocals and resulting melody. It is interesting how we hear the music.
Pulse, groove, priorities on vocal instead of the rhythm, how busy it is and where and why, length of intro.
There are plenty of people who would enjoy dancing to it, they just usually don't come to the party at the same time.
 
A lot of merengue?

So without long drive, you can dance salsa only 40% of the time. If I had all bad options like that, I would sit out the most of the evening. And dance only salsa songs. May be throw in a few bachata and merengue. You could have pact with good salsa followers to look out for each other when salsa gets played.
It's not worth a 2 .5 hour night to dance 52 minutes of the jight. No one is there to socialize. Just dance. So I sit there for 1 hour of the night not talking to anyone.
 
Why do you think the Rauw Alejandro track is not appropriate for dancing.

May be it is good I don’t understand the lyrics. The video shows butcher cutting meat and it being cooked. So if the lyrics are about meat chopping and food making, that can feel funny to dance to.

I listened to it second time and got an idea of dancing it another way. The vocals in the song are overpowering the instruments. That makes lyrical melody louder than the rhythm played by instruments. First time I played it, my brain focused on the rhythm and how that can be danced. The second time it couldn’t ignore the vocals and resulting melody. It is interesting how we hear the music.

Bro the lyrics are written across the top. It's a patriotic song about Puerto Rico. (Agree the meat videos are a bit weird but Caribbeans do seem very into their meat products I guess.)

I think it sounds quite danceable personally. Bit fast but that's great if I'm in the mood for it.
 
What’s too hard about it? It is a straight up good track for dancing.
I would like to dance to it. But I've rarely heard a track that exceeds 200bpm at linear socials around here, and this one hits 240bpm. Hard hitting songs like this one only ever get played at the latino parties or dedicated Cali socials.
 
. But I've rarely heard a track that exceeds 200bpm at linear socials around here, and this one hits 240bpm. Hard hitting songs like this one only ever get played at the latino parties or dedicated Cali socials.
More than a few with similar tempo get played at local socials I go to. Unlike EU, we don’t have DJs that slow down the tempo of original tracks.
 
Aren’t they inside as an image and in Spanish? Too tiny to read when playing it on the mobile browser inside SF post.

Fair enough. I didn't have a problem reading them from the mobile browser (presbyopia hasn't brought me down yet I guess), but makes sense it would be difficult to paste them into a translation app.

Definitely this tempo is not out of range for an NYC social. It is on the fast side so a solid deej would probably follow it up with a chacha or son.
 
Why do you think the Rauw Alejandro track is not appropriate for dancing.
I agree with Gaviota, it's way too fast for linear to enjoy. I tried at home for half a minute, it would be terrible with any intermediate follower. In WCS you can dance half-speed, in salsa not. For followers this speed would be exhausting, unless she is a very trained follower. I would sit this out.
 
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I agree with Gaviota, it's way too fast for linear to enjoy. I tried at home for half a minute, it would be terrible with any intermediate follower

I listened to the first minute into the song. I agree it would be too fast and frenetic for the linear crowds around here. It's way too chaotic to be enjoyed.

The Cuban crowd may make more sense out of it.

Would be interesting to try improving to solo, though.
 
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Definitely this tempo is not out of range for an NYC social. It is on the fast side so a solid deej would probably follow it up with a chacha or son.
Agree.

Good DJs would play two or three fast tempo songs (ascending) and then throw is a slower tempo song -cha cha, son, bolero and may be an odd bachata for a break.

I like DJs that can crest a wave of mid-tempo to fast tempo songs over 6-7 songs and then slow it down. Dancing to the songs in similar tempo for 30 minutes at a stretch makes to start dancing feel monotonous. Unless there is a lot of rhythmic variations.
 
I would like to dance to it. But I've rarely heard a track that exceeds 200bpm at linear socials around here, and this one hits 240bpm. Hard hitting songs like this one only ever get played at the latino parties or dedicated Cali socials.
Agree. IMHO it's not too fast or too hard by any means (but I like a bit of crazy dura!!), it just doesn't really fit the dominant 'smooth EU' style. It's fine if you adapt your dance to it, trouble is not all dancers have built the skills to do that and will just try their regular style to all music.
 
I listened to the first minute into the song. I agree it would be too fast and frenetic for the linear crowds around here. It's way too chaotic to be enjoyed.

The Cuban crowd may make more sense out of it.

Would be interesting to try improving to solo, though.
So what your saying is it will be the final song at Toronto salsa festival at 4 am
 
Very fast salsa songs are hard for linear. The last years quite often was played Marc Anthony's "P'alla voy" at home socials with an average crowd. It was always unpleasant with intermediate followers. The song demands fast pace without stopping, but that is demanding for followers and most got into the red zone. Slowing down and do some swaying is not really appropiate with this song. At home socials I won't ask unknowns again for this. Actually a DJ shouldn't play it for an average crowd.
 
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