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The NYT times has published a detailed description on how the decision to attack Iran was made and who argued what, including General Caine. I always wonder where they get these detailed informations from, but they somehow get it.

All intelligence services had already pointed out in their analysis how futile the attack would be and how difficult Hormuz is. It is fair to say Trump goes by his “guts” and no in the cabinet is willing to talk him out of it.

I read articles quoting the NYT article but could not read this link as it is behind a paywall.
I believe anyone with an average intelligence level can see immediately how impossible it is to defend against Iranian attacks.

The UAE/Oman side of the Strait is a peninsula. If they were to have beeen the rogue states, it would be somewhat easier to invade and control the peninsula. Its a small strip of land with limited access from the land behind it.

The Iran side, otoh, is impossible to control. A military force would have to invade the entire coastal region near the Strait, control it and defend it from attacks from the entire vast country behind it.

By contrast, Iran can attack from anywhere at the coast or even a longer distance inland and reach any target passing through.

I am certain that many previous US presidents considered an attack and decided not to as they trusted their own intelligence assessments.
 
Vladimir Putin arrived in Beijing for a two-day summit with Xi Jinping....this is Putin's 25th lifetime trip to China, and it comes less than a week after Donald Trump concluded a summit with Xi Jinping in Beijing


earlier meetings

2. Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping did a spot of cooking, they made Russian pancakes in the Russian far eastern city of Vladivostok

3. a boat ride along the renowned canals of St. Petersburg, Putin's home city


 
The NYT times has published a detailed description on how the decision to attack Iran was made and who argued what, including General Caine. I always wonder where they get these detailed informations from, but they somehow get it.

It has been said that Trump personally hated Iran after learning iranians planned to murder him - since he gave order to kill Suleimani back in 2020. It is known Trump takes revenge very seriously. I'm afraid it boils down to this as the main factor.

He has stated since the 80s that the u.s should just go to war with Iran, with a Smirk on his face. No wonder there was an attempt.
 
Probably aspirational distant goal USA will likely deny it. Iran has its own funds frozen, therefore most money will be unfrozen over due course.

However this is MOU. Not effective till actual agreement is signed. Which may be never or in 60 days or in 1 year.

There area a lot of moving parts that can break the so called peace or truce. Acts by Israel or Iran hardcore conservative elements who do not like the MOU as well as actions miscalculations by USA or Iran.
 
There area a lot of moving parts that can break the so called peace or truce. Acts by Israel or Iran hardcore conservative elements who do not like the MOU

Yea i think "Peace" is the part that scares them the most..
 
Yea i think "Peace" is the part that scares them the most..
Prez Douchebag let the genie out of the bottle. Everybody knew that Iran could close the Strait of Hormuz or control who passes through it whenever they felt like it, so everyone kept that truth hush hush.
Now that it is reality... Iran decides whatever "peace" looks like and if the Strait stays open.

This has to be the greatest strategic blunder of all time.

Meanwhile China.... is selling ever more wind and solar to whomever can pay.
 
Prez Douchebag let the genie out of the bottle. Everybody knew that Iran could close the Strait of Hormuz or control who passes through it whenever they felt like it, so everyone kept that truth hush hush.
Now that it is reality... Iran decides whatever "peace" looks like and if the Strait stays open.

Iran also got an opportunity to try out closing the strait. Next time they will be less hesitant. Mere threat will work, because everyone knows it can happen
 
Iran also got an opportunity to try out closing the strait. Next time they will be less hesitant. Mere threat will work, because everyone knows it can happen
They just did it again 20 min ago according to a news report. They don't like it that Israel continues to bomb Lebanon.

Maybe we (in the US) should offer them a trade they can't refuse: You guys get Trump and can do with him whatever you want, in return the Strait stays open forever and ever. Win-Win.
 
Probably aspirational distant goal USA will likely deny it.
i really dont know if they have a choice of continuing to playing those kind of games to be honest.
To use a UFC analogy, Iran choked them and they had to tap..
just like when a fighter is about to pass out and has no choice, the strategic reserves have just a few weeks left now. no more time for games

it feels like this agreement was (like everything else in the war from star to finish) a half baked idea.
and now america and israel are having trouble coming to terms with what they have actually agreed to and the fact that they have lost this war, the actual act of living up to the obligations in the MOU seems like it is going to be a very very painful process. (to say the least, israel is in complete denial and gone into full rogue mode now - if it wasnt always in that mode)

I think this could bring down the governments in one or both countries, or cause a rift beween them. there is so much yet to play for I think
 
He threatened to bomb and take o er the country,and told them the delegates they won't even make it back to their country. But hey. At least the economy is better. And he had a better showing than Kamala. Color me still undecided.
 
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