SF Shines Compilation: Logistics, Volunteers & Stuff

Is this going to be some kind of shine battle or just a compilation of the SF community with everyone doing his own shine?
 
This thread is up until we collect ideas, decide on theme finalize who is in and who is not.
Once we settle everything out, we will start the official thread.

I will update this post with a list of all ideas/themes/etc. Until tomorrow, please continue to throw any ideas you might have.
 
GoldVision said:
Is this going to be some kind of shine battle or just a compilation of the SF community with everyone doing his own shine?
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It's not really a battle and more a compilation where all have our own part of a song that we shine to and that is later compiled into one clip. If you look at this post from Brownskin818, you can find a playlist will all previous compilations. Hopefully the convince your to join our fun.
 
TwoLeftFeet said:
I like that song, weirdly it was actually the first song that sprang to mind when i read this thread
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Yeah .. Its a very rich song and strong too,with parts who can suit most tastes since it has parts with solos of piano, timbales, vocales, metales etc..and if we dont have two editors we can choose just that song cause its like 7 min rsrs
 
desconocida said:
The "hearing the song first" is very easy to explain, but not easy to understand if you don't share the same attitude: I'm an extremely picky dancer, I only like to dance to the songs I "feel" (whatever it might mean). My taste is pretty much set and irreversible, so if I know from the start I won't enjoy a song I won't bother (in social setting, that is, but it's even more important for a project like this one)
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Along the lines of what you're saying, I also know "what I like and what I don't like" -- but there's also an aspect of being in these compilations that you can you use to provide a new challenge and develop yourself as a dancer. From a personal standpoint, I wasn't in Compilation #1 because I was a little nervous about it, and, just like you, I wasn't in Compilation #2 because I didn't "feel" the musical choice (no offense, sweavo! ;) ). I did feel the music for Compilation #3, so I participated. After that rewarding experience, I promised myself to participate as many times as possible in the future, as a way to test my skills and develop my musicality.

I suppose if you're completely satisfied with your current dance skills and don't have any room for improvement (just like there's no room for changing your musical tastes), then we won't convince you to dance to a song in the compilation that you wouldn't pick for social dancing. On the other hand, pushing yourself out of your comfort zone and thinking about the music in a new way has some value, I think. It's also educational to the rest of us (as observers) to see how other people interpret the music.

Like I said before, I didn't join Compilation #2 because I didn't have a feeling in advance for how I could interpret the music. But then the video came out and it was cool to see how the music could be interpreted in ways that I hadn't ever imagined -- although perhaps I could have imagined them if I had forced myself to participate. I even liked the song better after I saw how people could dance to it. :) So, I volunteered for #3. Then, because of the way the song/video needed to be edited in Compilation #3 (*cough* to compensate for flakers *cough*), chrisk and I were actually dancing to the same portion of the song that was looped by the editor. However, because we interpreted that portion of the music in such vastly different ways, it wasn't until my third or fourth viewing of the video that I realized I was hearing a loop of the identical section of music! I thought it was a very cool example of how widely varied dancers' expressions of the same music can be, plus a fascinating lesson in how the way the song is seen can actually affect how it's heard. I originally thought I was hearing two different sections of the song, when I really wasn't.

On a final note, Compilation #5 was the most challenging for me, because it took me so long to figure out what to do as a dancer to accent what I was hearing in the music. But, I eventually came up with some ideas and a few people seemed to enjoy my final result. In retrospect, I think that kind of intensive creative process was extremely beneficial to me as a dancer, and could be very helpful for any other dancer....if you believe you have room to grow.
 
Regarding song choices, Madame Lolita, is there any chance of going in a different direction musically, at least for one of the songs? I'm specifically referring to Timba, which might get a few of the Cuban music fans to participate.

A few suggestions I would offer are the version of "Mi Musica" by Grupo Danson or "Fresquesito" by Elio Reve y su Orquesta or "Timba Pa' La Humanidad" by Timbalive. I think that even people who don't listen to Timba on a regular basis shouldn't have trouble finding the beat in those particular songs.
 
Big10 said:
Regarding song choices, Madame Lolita, is there any chance of going in a different direction musically, at least for one of the songs? I'm specifically referring to Timba, which might get a few of the Cuban music fans to participate.

A few suggestions I would offer are the version of "Mi Musica" by Grupo Danson or "Fresquesito" by Elio Reve y su Orquesta or "Timba Pa' La Humanidad" by Timbalive. I think that even people who don't listen to Timba on a regular basis shouldn't have trouble finding the beat in those particular songs.
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I think with Mi Musica you can attract many cross body dancers too.
 
I'm in......

edwin bonilla -recordando la descargas
Richie Ray and Bobby Cruz -Lo atara la arache
Tiro Puente and Eddie Palmieri-
picadillo jam
 
Big10 said:
Along the lines of what you're saying, I also know "what I like and what I don't like" -- but there's also an aspect of being in these compilations that you can you use to provide a new challenge and develop yourself as a dancer.

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I suppose if you're completely satisfied with your current dance skills and don't have any room for improvement (just like there's no room for changing your musical tastes), then we won't convince you to dance to a song in the compilation that you wouldn't pick for social dancing. On the other hand, pushing yourself out of your comfort zone and thinking about the music in a new way has some value, I think. It's also educational to the rest of us (as observers) to see how other people interpret the music.

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In retrospect, I think that kind of intensive creative process was extremely beneficial to me as a dancer, and could be very helpful for any other dancer....if you believe you have room to grow.
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Dear Big10,

(I hope you don't mind that I took the liberty to only quote a part of your reply)

First of all, thank you very much for this impact, I appreciate it and it certainly did give me a push to revaluate my standpoint.
I do have lots and lots of room to grow and I'd also like to finaly address this need (which I meant when saying I'd like some motivation) and thus, in a nutshell, what you said about growing certainly applies for me and consequently I should do the compilation regardless of the song.
But (yes, I know, there's always a "but"), as I said, despite definitely wanting to grow, due to me being around this whole salsa thing for quite a while I know exactly in what directions I'd like to grow. And while practicing anything in general, regardless of the particular style or music, always makes you a better dancer I would still skip practicing anything to a song that I feel doesn't bring out the dancer in me that I'd like to be. As an example: it's not necessarily about not knowing how to accentuate certain songs/sections, it's more about picturing how it should look to this particular music but not wanting to look that way. Does this make any sense at all? :eek:
This probably sounds quite stubborn, I'm aware [or as a pretty lame excuse not to expose oneself to the entire online salsa world :rolleyes: ] but that's the way I feel about it, at least for now.
I'll keep thinking about what you said and your very own experience regarding this matter though, opinions do change from time to time :D

Btw, it's not always about liking the song or not. For example I have a certain number of songs that I would never ever dance to socially, let alone, if I was offered that opportunity, in a performance. Those include e.g. "Welcome to the Party", or "Sonido Bestial", sometimes for funny reasons - "WTTP" will always be a "Frankie song" for me and for some, maybe odd, reason I feel like nobody should mess with it. :nope: Same is true for "Sonido Bestial" because whenever I hear that song I always picture that old video of the LA congress (I think LA) with Juan, Fernando Sosa, and Burju in it. It's weird, I know. But we're all weird in our own ways, aren't we? [or do I need help?] :D
 
Ok, just to contribute something constructive as well:

Ray Perez - "Trigueño cintura"

youtube.com/watch?v=CyXxxjn6Phg

And everyone can pick and choose their own favorite pace! :rolleyes: (ok, it's not THAT versatile in terms of pace, but still quite a bit)
 
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