more about salsa perverts

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As I would say in spanish aaayyy ffoooo!!!

sweavo said:
Sometimes making a scene is the best thing. When people talk about the incident it will give the ear licking story a chance to get aired and spread the news about this dodgy guy.
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Definately my way to go...it's excellent Public Relations. You'll deliver the message loud and clear and that's the price he pays for being a pervert.
 
EMOYENO said:
eeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
As I would say in spanish aaayyy ffoooo!!!



Definately my way to go...it's excellent Public Relations. You'll deliver the message loud and clear and that's the price he pays for being a pervert.
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So if you were dancing with Miss Puerto Rico 2008 and she licked your ear, your reaction would be to say "aaayyy ffoooo" or cause a scene?
 
AguaDulce said:
So if you were dancing with Miss Puerto Rico 2008 and she licked your ear, your reaction would be to say "aaayyy ffoooo" or cause a scene?
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Jalapenos, por favor

From: http://www. waleg.com/archives/010038.html
Ingrid Marie Rivera is Miss Puerto Rico 2008
Filed Under: Just News

If destiny has something in store for you, nothing can stop it! Definitely not with Pepper Spray! Ingrid Marie Rivera, who was second runner-up in the Miss World 2005 contest, became Miss Puerto Rico 2008.
She made it through many difficulties ... it's just like a movie; come on, lets spice up that girl's make-up with pepper spray, and while we're at it, let's spike her gown too!
Ingrid put on a strong face in front of the judges, but back-stage was a horrid and painful experience! She had to take off her clothes and apply ice bags on her face and body, which swelled and broke out in a horrid rash twice!
Everyone thought it was stress, allergic reaction or nerves ... but then it was obvious, that was no coincidence! Her make-up and dress tested positive for pepper spray!

An investigation is underway to find out who planned the movie-like prank!
Someone didn't want her to win ... but she beat jealousy out and all the other contestants.
It's her destiny, pepper spray or not!
Congratulations Ingrid!
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Wow, I didn't expect this much support, I just needed to vent. Thanks everybody :)

Yes, friend and I apologized to each other. Pervert guy did indeed ask him for a "second chance" and promised not to try risky moves. If the guy had been within slapping distance, he would have gotten that too, but after I pushed him he just flew off somewhere and disappeared.

I think salsa dancing can exist perfectly well in the typical club scene. We just have to be more selective about who we dance with. A lot of the griping about salsa dancers being cliquey and elitist may be a response to this defensive m.o.. In a night, I probably reject about 25% of men who try to approach me because it's obvious that they are more interested in feeling me up than in dancing. It's only a problem when I'm passed off in the middle of a dance, and that choice is taken away from me - so the person who does the passing becomes partly responsible.

Cocomo in SF does not have metal detectors, and no one jumps people in the parking lot - these days there is a guard/bouncer patrolling the street, and he walks me to my car and wishes me good night. (Just in case people got the wrong impression about the club.)

And poor Miss Puerto Rico! Good thing she wasn't asthmatic. I hope someone goes to jail for that.
 
Even if they weren't dancing Rueda, the handing off thing is popular with Cuban style dancers sometimes (although I don't know if that was the case). I think it's really fun! But then I have never been handed to someone who dropped me on the floor and then licked my ear.
 
chr said:
Nowadays when I am dancing, I am completely absorbed by the technical aspects, the music and movement, so that the aspect of holding a beautiful girl in my arms has shrunk to a relatively very minor part of my attention. Actually, I think I am even a bit sad about this, but can't change it.
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It's funny how that happens; I guess we just become desensitized. Sometimes I'll watch a beautiful woman dancing, thinking that I could never dance with her; then realize that I'd done so several times, and had hardly even noticed her appearance.
 
AguaDulce said:
So if you were dancing with Miss Puerto Rico 2008 and she licked your ear, your reaction would be to say "aaayyy ffoooo" or cause a scene?
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Yes I'd cause a scene, cause I'm a girl.
aaaannnnnddddd if it's a man that does it to me, I'd cause the scene!!!
 
And have you learnt any lessons from the experience? What safeguards would you take in future? Or how would you alter YOUR behaviour so that you dont find yourself in that "Stranger Danger" moment.

When your friend asks you for a dance he is responsible for you as a gentleman, so its his responsibility who he hands you off to, as you are placing your trust in him, if he feels there are no more Gentlemen to hand off to he shouldn't be handing you off without consideration, If he cant last the duration of a song without discarding you to an obvious and perhaps a drunk novice then I think there is an argument for slapping him. Its not as if you have a lot of say when you are handed off, I am assuning, so yes your friend put you in that position.
 
dancing dapps said:
When your friend asks you for a dance he is responsible for you as a gentleman, so its his responsibility who he hands you off to, as you are placing your trust in him, if he feels there are no more Gentlemen to hand off to he shouldn't be handing you off without consideration, If he cant last the duration of a song without discarding you to an obvious and perhaps a drunk novice then I think there is an argument for slapping him. Its not as if you have a lot of say when you are handed off, I am assuning, so yes your friend put you in that position.
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That.

And welcome to a fellow Yorkie!
 
Tom said:
What is this "handing off"? Round here women decide who they want to dance with.
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darcitananda said:
Even if they weren't dancing Rueda, the handing off thing is popular with Cuban style dancers sometimes (although I don't know if that was the case). I think it's really fun! But then I have never been handed to someone who dropped me on the floor and then licked my ear.
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I've actually seen more of this in crossbody style salsa (on1/on2) than in Cuban style. It's sometimes done as "handing over/sharing", i.e., the guy who's dancing passing his partner to his friend, or as "stealing", where a guy jumps in and takes someone else's partner mid-dance - again, it's usually done among friends. It's great fun and girls love it, but I think it's very unusual and in fact quite bad-mannered to involve a stranger or steal from a stranger.
 
chr said:
In the first weeks I started to dance (with different partners), I needed that readjustment, too, but I think it came automatically quite fast.

Nowadays when I am dancing, I am completely absorbed by the technical aspects, the music and movement, so that the aspect of holding a beautiful girl in my arms has shrunk to a relatively very minor part of my attention. Actually, I think I am even a bit sad about this, but can't change it.

Even just looking at a pretty girl on the dance floor incites different thoughts or feelings as before. Earlier, when I saw a beautiful girl making sexy moves on the dance floor, I found it at often quite erotic. Now, I automatically start evaluate in my head "this body roll was nice", "her hip movement sucks", etc...

And if I look at a girl whose movement looks pleasing from a technical point of view, I don't start to fantasize on how would she be in bed, but about how her connection would feel on the dance floor, how she would react to my lead...
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You are probably very close on what happened to this "poor" miscalibrated guy; I remember when I started dancing, this beautiful girl was smiling at me and her eyes soo intensive they seemed to say: "I want you right here, right now". I'm sure I was blushing. I then watched her dance with some fat old and completely unattractive man and she gave him the exact same face and that made me realize that it was just an act and a part of her Salsa dancing. It is then easy to see how a complete beginner can be fooled to think that these are real sexual cues and an invitation to a sexual approach: If this guy had never been at a club before and he was having a few beers earlier on, to get his courage going before asking you (the OP) to dance, then it is quite possible that in his clouded judgement, he managed to misread your sensual dancing for something more and as any man with self respect would do: he acted on it!

I think the girl in this story did the right thing slapping him and I think he realized his mistake as soon as it happened: I am sure he went home thinking: "wow, what an idiot I just made of myself".

Your friend should have better awareness and if a close friend of yours, he should be more protective of you (OP): a glancing eye at you during your first dance with this would-be-pervert should have told your friend not to pass you to him again.
 
doc jones said:
You are probably very close on what happened to this "poor" miscalibrated guy;
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No. I believe that if the guy starts to lick a stranger's any body part on the dance floor, he needs way more than just "calibration".

(BTW, My mail was an answer to darcitananda's post, not of the OP.)
 
doc jones said:
I remember when I started dancing, this beautiful girl was smiling at me and her eyes soo intensive they seemed to say: "I want you right here, right now".
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One of the reasons I do not smile and avoid eye contact in clubs unless I'm dancing with a good friend.
 
chr said:
No. I believe that if the guy starts to lick a stranger's any body part on the dance floor, he needs way more than just "calibration".
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I agree with this 100%.

Salsa isn't the only dance with sexual overtones. Even something as common as hip hop you'll see girls grinding away with anyone they dance with at some random club. It's just dancing. In fact I've done more questionable moves when free dancing to pop/rock/80's/whatever than salsa. So the guy may be new to salsa, but unless he's been living under a rock I doubt he's new to the concept of sexy/suggestive dancing.

Not to mention licking is not exactly a dance move.
 
evilquesadilla said:
I agree with this 100%.

Salsa isn't the only dance with sexual overtones. Even something as common as hip hop you'll see girls grinding away with anyone they dance with at some random club. It's just dancing. In fact I've done more questionable moves when free dancing to pop/rock/80's/whatever than salsa. So the guy may be new to salsa, but unless he's been living under a rock I doubt he's new to the concept of sexy/suggestive dancing.

Not to mention licking is not exactly a dance move.
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I was going to write something like this, but evilquesadilla beat me to it. It is a good trait to try and see both sides of an issue, but that has a limit. I believe we have reached that limit in this example. If this dude doesn't have a clue that licking an ear isn't an acceptable first move then he needs to get one. Fast.
 
Licking an ear is definitely odd, perverted behaviour. I don't know any woman that would find that a turn on :S
 
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