I just wanted to show off my new site

wildbill20056

Son Montuno
Hey chaps, just thought I'd show you the new site for all my Salsa fun here in Dundee, Scotland.

Feedback is appreciated if you feel motivated :P

www.puresalsa.co.uk/
 
It's cool overall, but I don't like the javascript dropdown menu animation that goes from left to right, it's kind of jerky and slow and distracting. If you had a choice between that and no animation, I would go with no animation instead.
 
Pictures are not opening in "about" section.

"He has benefitted from instruction with some of the world's finest, and has sought to learn only the best techniques as taught by the best schools in the world. "
This is "blurry", doesn't make sense as long as you don't write the details.

Are the incredible assistances "qualified" as well? ;)

No price info, if I were you I would include that one as well.
 
I do a fair bit of web/web app design (for a living) so I'll be critical but hopefully constructive.

I dont like the way the 3rd and 4th letters of pure are bolded it should be consistent in as much as they are separate words thus pureSALSA OR perhaps bold the u so its pUreSALSA ie U SALSA which is meaningful too...

perhaps you could add a youtube clip of the week with something useful - ie a timing youtube clip ala salsa beat machine?

some pictures would brighten up the page... im not yet feeling enthusiastic and raring to dance when i open the page.

Think what is the cutomer looking for.

They want to see location (with google map) / price / time on the first page they arrive, they dont want to have to hunt around on further pages.

Get the message out -> No Experience OR Partner Required

People want to know the information is up to date, if you include the date of the next class this should re-assures people they wont turn up to a now defunct venue etc.

as olam mentioned - you mention a price deal but no actual price, so you dont really know if its a good deal / affordable or not
 
It comes across as friendly and welcoming.

Some thoughts as I browsed:

Ditto above comments re the menus - hard and not intuitive to use. Do they work in mobile?

Also your headers and menus are very big, therefore it requires me to scroll down on every page to get to the content. I'd put the follow us buttons in the header so they show on every page.

Agree: price, times, location at top of class page. In fact I would have the basic class info and the social(s) info all on the home page (in boxes) rather than requiring a click through.
But if people click through the info is there again plus the explanation of what to expect in the class, and I would put the discount info on the class page without requiring yet another click through.
I'd put a photo of the class on the class page to show people the venue. Why not take a class photo with everyone in a group smiling and waving at the camera?

Where is the venue? No location button in the menu. No info on the class page. No google map. No text of address inc postcode. Or this info is too well hidden. Parking info? Public transport info?

Also how do I contact you? I looked and looked and couldn't see it. I'd have contact info as a footer on every page. And absolutely as text on the class pages. You should give your email address and a phone number.

You really should be telling the girls to wear shoes with a supportive heel and a heel strap if heels ie no courts, no ballerinas, no wedges. Honestly if you change anything please change this - the number of beginner girls I see struggling to do stuff and keep their shoes from falling off is huge.

Can people bring food and drink? Or can they buy water or whatever there?

What should they wear? This worried me when I started...would I have to wear a skirt? You can just tell people to look at the photos.

You already talk about you in the About Pure Salsa page, so it's weird that the "why salsa is for you" page is actually all about you again, and not actually why someone should learn salsa. I know you explain why you've done it this way, but it's confusing. Your story is interesting, but hard to read and quite long. There's a reason newspapers write in columns as sentences running across a big page are hard to read. Condense your text into boxy paragraphs. The sentences you've put boxes around just make it hard to read. You use too much space between sentences means text is hard to scan; if I wasn't reviewing the site I would have stopped reading near the beginning. IMO talk about yourself and your team once, more than that looks big-headed.

Also on style I find the occasional bolded word v annoying and makes it harder to read quickly. Use more headlines and sub headlines to make important points.

You use words that might be confusing ie Scene without explanation.

The history of salsa is nice. You could recommend some tracks or albums that are suitable for beginners ie easy to hear beat, slow enough to practice to at home.
 
It's cool overall, but I don't like the javascript dropdown menu animation that goes from left to right, it's kind of jerky and slow and distracting. If you had a choice between that and no animation, I would go with no animation instead.

This only occurs in Chrome, and is just a question of how the browser reads the CSS. It doesn't occur in the other mainstream browsers: FF, IE, Opera. It's the least buggy of the available options.

Appreciate the sentiment though.

Pictures are not opening in "about" section.

"He has benefitted from instruction with some of the world's finest, and has sought to learn only the best techniques as taught by the best schools in the world. "
This is "blurry", doesn't make sense as long as you don't write the details.

Are the incredible assistances "qualified" as well? ;)

No price info, if I were you I would include that one as well.

All pictures are functional to me in all browsers.

I don't think people need a fully fitted out CV. Further to the people coming along from my local area names and schools mean nothing, and even with my explicit direction in class people are only becoming vaguely aware even now.

My assistants are all taught by me, I'm the one who assures the quality.

Agree with pricing info.

I do a fair bit of web/web app design (for a living) so I'll be critical but hopefully constructive.

I dont like the way the 3rd and 4th letters of pure are bolded it should be consistent in as much as they are separate words thus pureSALSA OR perhaps bold the u so its pUreSALSA ie U SALSA which is meaningful too...

Appreciate the time you took for your feedback!

I don't agree with the text issues to be fair, this part of the design comes straight from a fairly experienced graphic designer. It sets it apart from the more predictable ways of text setting, and gives individuality to our way of thinking. I do appreciate where you're coming from however.

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perhaps you could add a youtube clip of the week with something useful - ie a timing youtube clip ala salsa beat machine?

some pictures would brighten up the page... im not yet feeling enthusiastic and raring to dance when i open the page. [/quote]

I certainly think a video feature is upcoming in version 1.1 - so yes.

There will be limited picture/graphics coming in to background/banner the welcome section, so that's a yes too for 1.1 - However I don't want to overdo it, many salsa sites suffer from horrible cliche/cheesiness.

Think what is the cutomer looking for.

They want to see location (with google map) / price / time on the first page they arrive, they dont want to have to hunt around on further pages.

Get the message out -> No Experience OR Partner Required

Agree mostly, although I don't think the front page should be dominated by a map - a link to a map/map embedded on the class page certainly

Date of upcoming class and no experience or partner, certainly coming up in 1.1

People want to know the information is up to date, if you include the date of the next class this should re-assures people they wont turn up to a now defunct venue etc.

as olam mentioned - you mention a price deal but no actual price, so you dont really know if its a good deal / affordable or not

Agree. Thanks again for your time!

It comes across as friendly and welcoming.

Some thoughts as I browsed:

Ditto above comments re the menus - hard and not intuitive to use. Do they work in mobile?

I honestly don't agree, I think the menus are very straight forward and intuitively titled.

The Menu works in Mobile Opera.

Also your headers and menus are very big, therefore it requires me to scroll down on every page to get to the content. I'd put the follow us buttons in the header so they show on every page.

A good idea!

Agree: price, times, location at top of class page. In fact I would have the basic class info and the social(s) info all on the home page (in boxes) rather than requiring a click through.
But if people click through the info is there again plus the explanation of what to expect in the class, and I would put the discount info on the class page without requiring yet another click through.
I'd put a photo of the class on the class page to show people the venue. Why not take a class photo with everyone in a group smiling and waving at the camera?

Agree, though I think information on the front page will at best serve to give the basic details and demonstrate current activity, whilst linking to the class pages with the more detailed info.


Where is the venue? No location button in the menu. No info on the class page. No google map. No text of address inc postcode. Or this info is too well hidden. Parking info? Public transport info?

Nope this is coming in version 1.1, was under a severe time restraint, but the embedded map will be up in the next day or two and yes when it goes up my standard blurb re public transports and parking will join it.

Also how do I contact you? I looked and looked and couldn't see it. I'd have contact info as a footer on every page. And absolutely as text on the class pages. You should give your email address and a phone number.

Agree, this is an oversight.

You really should be telling the girls to wear shoes with a supportive heel and a heel strap if heels ie no courts, no ballerinas, no wedges. Honestly if you change anything please change this - the number of beginner girls I see struggling to do stuff and keep their shoes from falling off is huge.

Agreed and will update to reflect this!

Can people bring food and drink? Or can they buy water or whatever there?

What should they wear? This worried me when I started...would I have to wear a skirt? You can just tell people to look at the photos.

Indeedy this information will be going up also.

You already talk about you in the About Pure Salsa page, so it's weird that the "why salsa is for you" page is actually all about you again, and not actually why someone should learn salsa. I know you explain why you've done it this way, but it's confusing. Your story is interesting, but hard to read and quite long. There's a reason newspapers write in columns as sentences running across a big page are hard to read. Condense your text into boxy paragraphs. The sentences you've put boxes around just make it hard to read. You use too much space between sentences means text is hard to scan; if I wasn't reviewing the site I would have stopped reading near the beginning. IMO talk about yourself and your team once, more than that looks big-headed.

I agree formatting still requires work to enhance scanability.

However I don't agree with the issue of subject matter. One short section talking about my qualification to teach is suitable to the school section.

This section is about my personal, subjective experiences to give others an insight into the sort of experiences they themselves might find.

The point is that rather than give the very tired and predictable list of reasons, however developed, you should take up Salsa, to make it personal and grounded in reality.

When people tell their friends about something cool, and why they want to bring them along, they tend to tell them about the great time they had, not the objective/sterile abstracted list of positives. That's my opinion anyway.

Also on style I find the occasional bolded word v annoying and makes it harder to read quickly. Use more headlines and sub headlines to make important points.

I think this might be an issue of personal taste.

You use words that might be confusing ie Scene without explanation.

Hmm perhaps, yes I can scan for language unintuitive to the uninitiated ;)

The history of salsa is nice. You could recommend some tracks or albums that are suitable for beginners ie easy to hear beat, slow enough to practice to at home.

Indeed, something I had in mind for 1.1, so I totally agree.


Thanks again for taking the time to both view and give a constructive critique.



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Thank you all :) Version 1.1 on the way!
 
I honestly don't agree, I think the menus are very straight forward and intuitively titled.

The Menu works in Mobile Opera.

Menu comment was not about intuitive titling, but I was also using Chrome, and the menus are not the most pleasant to use ie jerky/distracting as ColdSalsero said.

Well, the homepage is too big to open in Blackberry (the most popular phone with young people in the UK) so I can't comment.


Agree, though I think information on the front page will at best serve to give the basic details and demonstrate current activity, whilst linking to the class pages with the more detailed info.

Sorry, I wrote v fast and might not have been clear. Yes, this is what I was suggesting.

A common mistake people make is to base their assumption of how people use websites on the way sites originally had to be designed/constructed because of size and time-loading constraints. Nowadays best practice is to give people what they want simply and quickly, and optimise for mobile.

You should stick google analytics on, you'll probably end up horrified at how many people bounce off your homepage after a few seconds never to return. Most clients are :rolleyes:

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The point is that rather than give the very tired and predictable list of reasons, however developed, you should take up Salsa, to make it personal and grounded in reality.

When people tell their friends about something cool, and why they want to bring them along, they tend to tell them about the great time they had, not the objective/sterile abstracted list of positives. That's my opinion anyway.

Agree, especially your last point. Story-telling is a great way to capture people's imagination.


Also on style I find the occasional bolded word v annoying and makes it harder to read quickly. Use more headlines and sub headlines to make important points.

I think this might be an issue of personal taste.

No, it's not about my taste, it's about general population preferences and behaviour - though I agree with it which is why I used the personal pronoun. It's a comment based on much published research into how people read (websites, newspapers, blogs etc) and the science of getting and maintaining attention including eye-tracking studies. There's masses of stuff like this floating around, if you really want to create a useable, effective and attractive website it's worth doing some reading.
 
I know nothing about web design but I can give you my initial impression.
It's too white - it didn't draw me in.

I usually only go to salsa club web pages to find out about their classes, when, where , what time, how much, who's teaching, social dancing times.

I went to your site and jumped straight to classes, and was surprised this didn't give me the above info I was looking for.
I went back to home page. Clicked on Get Dancing Tab > Mambo Mondays. This only partially gave me info I need. I still don't know where your lessons are held!

Back to home page to see if I had missed something - nope.
So I have been to three pages that I thought would give me information on where you hold your nights and I'm still none the wiser.
I am now potentially a lost customer!
 
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