how to relax your partner?

Smejmoon

Son Montuno
[Described is an imaginary person, but some features most dancers have from time to time.]

Symptoms:

Her body is tense. Eyes are shifting. She's rushing ahead of the beat, charging forward as soon as I move out of slot, or turning as soon as I lift the arm. May be following the beat or might be rushing. Often there are much more steps than needed.

The problem:

I start to tense up as well. I can't groove to the music. To maintain slot I sometimes need to wrestle her. If I let her go direction can become tangential, including disappearing behind my back. This stops to be enjoyable soon. Feels that song is wasted and I might not ask her again for a long time. Shorter if she's a total beginner.

Solutions:

Parody. Works for dancers who are usually better than me, they laugh and we dance. For some the message does not connect.

Slowing down. Inhaling, exhaling slowly. Swinging from side to side on the down beats. Works for most people who dance salsa well. From newbies I get questions like "Is this salsa" "I don't dance bachata" and looks for when there's gonna be forward-backward basic and turns. I tell that turns will come in time. Some think that I'm just weird and reaction is opposite to relaxation.

Offer to follow in stead. Almost no one takes me on this offer, but this works for salsa teachers. They laugh and relax.

Don't offer, but go on and follow anyway. This is for autopilot dancers, you guess their routine and try to match it. Not fun and can be waste of dance, but it also could get them to relax. When everything is closer to expected people tend to get more comfortable. For some people it means give them space to style. For others, don't let them go, just keep turning - inside, outside, inside, outside.

It could be that I'm part of the problem, not solution. Is sometimes happens I get asked for the song, I don't like. Or I want to dance with someone else. Or I'm worried, hurt or something else on the mind. Still one side project for me is to be able to dance with most good dancers and have a good time. When salsa groupies start to ask me, I think I'm doing all right. ;) They don't line up, like they do for Terry, but they also don't mind if I cut in the line and steal for a dance.

Asking. There are follows, with whom I know I can have very good connection. I ask, what's wrong. Sometimes the answer is - "nothing". Also sometimes later in the night she asks me and is warm, relaxed and springy. Maybe it's the warm up thing, I know I need time to get in shape.

Nevertheless there are quite a few dances each night especially in the scared newbie crowd, that carry the unneeded tension.

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On the other side I also do tricks, misdirections and surprises, to keep some follows from falling asleep. That's the opposite direction, but it actually works for some - you can't be ready for each misdirection and be tense at the same time.

Also sometimes it's just the wrong song. Too slow, too fast, too many breaks, clave changes and so on.
 
[Described is an imaginary person, but some features most dancers have from time to time.]

Symptoms:

Her body is tense. Eyes are shifting. She's rushing ahead of the beat, charging forward as soon as I move out of slot, or turning as soon as I lift the arm. May be following the beat or might be rushing. Often there are much more steps than needed.

The problem:

I start to tense up as well. I can't groove to the music. To maintain slot I sometimes need to wrestle her. If I let her go direction can become tangential, including disappearing behind my back. This stops to be enjoyable soon. Feels that song is wasted and I might not ask her again for a long time. Shorter if she's a total beginner.

I can completely relate to the problem you mention, when you are an empathic sort of person its tough to not let their feelings become your own.

Smiling if you aren't already smiling can help,

sometimes going back to basic moves or moves you know they are familiar with to build up their confidence again

sometimes i make a joke like 'new move!' when something goes wrong and laugh
 
The question more about the first seconds of the dance. Something like, getting to know each other, getting a drink, taking a shower or foot massage won't work on the dancefloor. I sometimes do a quick shoulder/neck massage, but it does not work for all and might give her the wrong idea. ;)
 
Adapt to your partner. Tips (try to do all of them together):

- Simplify. Go back to the most basic things. i.e. forward/back basic (not "Swinging from side to side" - that's not a basic of cross-body Salsa), right turn, closed hold etc.
- Slow down (as you already do). This is to reduce the hesitations, rushes etc.
- Reduce tension if they have high tension, increase tension if they have noodle arms. Equalise tension to what is effective for them.
- Smile.
- Smooth out (rather than sharp, think copa.. it has some sharp changes in it, so think how to change that or don't do it at all).
- Relax your mood. Breathe!
- Harmony over complexity (goes with simplify).
- Synchronise with her, then slowly bring her back onto your timing.
- Confidence. That you know your job as leader and she is in good hands. That feeling will come across to her and hopefully relax her, as long as you don't do anything out of her comfort zone.
- Lead with your body.
- Stop her from rushing. e.g. By leading well, using your body. If she has tension in her arms/enough good connection you can stop her with your left hand on the 4 if she tries to rush forward. Obviously make sure this won't hurt her.. it shouldn't if you have good spring in your arms.
- Let go when things are going wrong and wait or offer to re-connect.

Adapting to your partner is not just for dancing with beginner/newbies. It goes for everyone.

Go back through this list and see if there's anything you're not doing, or doing things instead of these..
Salsa leaders - your golden rules

I noticed in your videos you do some strange things... like large side steps. Cross-body Salsa is NOT Son, even though it may be in it's heritage. Don't mix the two. Don't mix with what you think is Cuban Salsa - like "Swinging from side to side". I wouldn't even do that in Cuban salsa, not the way you describe.

Like the beginners say, you're confusing them.
 
- Reduce tension if they have high tension, increase tension if they have noodle arms. Equalise tension to what is effective for them.
- Smile.
- Confidence. That you know your job as leader and she is in good hands. That feeling will come across to her and hopefully relax her, as long as you don't do anything out of her comfort zone.

For me, these three seem to be the three most important in getting tense follows to relax.
 
I try to dance with a clear beginner after I have danced a good few songs... Go for a slowish track, and take it from there. Simple lead, simple move(s). I usually say a few things as well, give encouragement....
 
Cross-body Salsa is NOT Son, even though it may be in it's heritage. Don't mix the two.

This is just the phase I'm going through. Once I discovered son cubano, salsa - especially the slow one - become much more tasteful.

Don't mix with what you think is Cuban Salsa - like "Swinging from side to side". I wouldn't even do that in Cuban salsa, not the way you describe.

Like the beginners say, you're confusing them.

Hehe, the "cuban" I do when I give up on establishing a connection and when song is fast. That consists of stomping and kicking. Good Casino feels similar to son to me. :)
 
This is just the phase I'm going through. Once I discovered son cubano, salsa - especially the slow one - become much more tasteful.

I understand though there are other ways to have a different 'mode' of dancing and still stick to the fundamentals. At the end of the day, it's your choice. Just making suggestions.

Hehe, the "cuban" I do when I give up on establishing a connection and when song is fast. That consists of stomping and kicking. Good Casino feels similar to son to me. :)

Er.. Cuban without connection? Never mind that.. Son has different fundamentals. e.g. rhythm, timing, basic step, body movement etc. It's a different dance to Cuban Casino.

In mixing Rumba, Son or Mambo into Casino we add 'influences'. We don't change the whole Casino basic step all the time, unless we're actually dancing Son for a whole track (and then it's not Casino anymore). Same with cross-body Salsa. Look at Tropical Gem for good examples of doing this.

Anyway, back to topic..
 
Anyway, back to topic..
One new trick that Wildbill taught me is to search for everyones inner musicality. Most people have it. If you find it and accept by including in the dance, they feel better and go from confused to dancing. :) It might mean completely different groove, which is tough.

Also often happens that dancers are comfortable in just one salsa timing; one can adjust to that, but I'm not there yet. I can relax slot for casino dancers or tighten it as well.
 
Another trick I like to use is framing. Lead basic step and other steps in closed position, with a very strong frame (and effectively leading EVERY SIX STEP).
It allows her to relax and not think too much about her steps or rythm.
Messing/joking with her is pretty nice / efficient too
 
Lead basic step and other steps in closed position, with a very strong frame..

Trouble with inexperienced is that this does not fit the stereotypes of salsa and makes them uncomfortable. Many teachers avoid closed position, to increase comfort level; and sacrifice connection as a collateral. Which is trouble, since this is one of the best solutions. Sometimes newbies notice, that with others I dance almost only in the open position; why so? If I tell about restricting degrees of freedom, people who get it are experienced leads. If I tell she's cute, that might be misleading. :)

Inexperienced in the partnerwork context. Again these might be international performers, who have trained for years, but not really danced synchronously enough. [<= is that a legit word?]
 
Nevertheless there are quite a few dances each night especially in the scared newbie crowd, that carry the unneeded tension.

Occasionally try and drop into the beginner's class to experience first hand what these girls get taught and what would constitute their comfort zone. Apply that during social dancing to calm their nerves.

All the advice on this thread is highly useful but I would add from my own experience that sometimes there simply is nothing you can do..although that has not stopped me from trying!

There's one girl that was literally shaking with nerves for one whole year. I would dance with her every week and try new ways to reassure her - she was so tense and so serious on the dance floor that it took her about a year to start relaxing. A little.

As you might have guessed, she was a bit gorgeous so I didn't mind all that much ;)
Off the dance floor she was great fun but she just took the whole Salsa thing very seriously.
 
Another trick I like to use is framing. Lead basic step and other steps in closed position, with a very strong frame (and effectively leading EVERY SIX STEP).
It allows her to relax and not think too much about her steps or rythm.
Messing/joking with her is pretty nice / efficient too

In my experience, using more frame on a follow who's already physically tense is likely to result in her tensing up even more, not relaxing.
 
In my experience, using more frame on a follow who's already physically tense is likely to result in her tensing up even more, not relaxing.

Now this depends how you use your frame.
The idea is not to go against her, but to support her. Good leading includes very much following.

I do agree that it takes quite a bit of experience to be done properly, and that in many cases (when not done properly) it's just going to make things worse. I guess it's just like leading in general. It's not about physical power it's about intention.

Often one of the best ways to loosen up stiff follower arms is to lead even softer than usual.
 
I have not read the whole thread, so I don't know if anyone has said this, but the best way to relax someone is to relax YOURSELF first! ;)
 
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