Thanks to my husband said:Hahaha I have an Peruvian boyfriend and when where dancing together he teaches me what the song is about! He sings it loud into my ear! :roll: :lol:
TheBear_CanDanceToo said:I feel like a bit of an ignoramus on the language front
I put myself down for 3 on the poll.
Fluent English and Modern Greek (read, write, speak). My Spanish is what you might call near-fluent, I will usually 'fool' a native speaker for a casual conversation but ultimately I'm either going to evince a suspicious lack of vocabulary or make a grammatical error that will expose me.
My Spanish is what you might call near-fluent, I will usually 'fool' a native speaker for a casual conversation but ultimately I'm either going to evince a suspicious lack of vocabulary or make a grammatical error that will expose me.
That's not what I understand with near-fluent, that's what I'd call near-native. Fluent is when you can speak fluently, continuously. According to my measures you don't have to be able to 'fool' natives. People usually over-estimates their language skills, so when applying for jobs etc. you have to up your skills.
I put down 2, since I speak English, get by in Tourist French, and like/have tried but totally couldn't survive in Dutch, Spanish and Swedish.
As i first attempted to learn Spanish, a buddy asked me why ?-- i replied " so i can become illiterate in 2 languages "
I was tempted to put down two but can only speak English. I'm perfectly fluent in Spanish and Russian gibberish and can manage a little Italian by waving my arms about.
There are a few languages where it is virtually impossible to 'fool' natives...and thats just the normally spoken languages. Imagine trying to learn the South African Khoisan languages with their clicks and attempting to 'fool' a native.
Yeah, that's true. I notice a lot of people who are still in the "?Donde dolor?" stage will put Spanish on their CVs. But I'm not going to put 'near-native' on my CV, that's just weird. I just list the languages and let people inquire if they care.RonObvious said:People usually over-estimate their language skills, so when applying for jobs etc. you have to up your skills.
Regarding 'fooling natives,' this is of course easier in languages that are widely spoken and therefore have many different regional sounds. Spanish is one of these - nobody ever thinks I'm from their country but I could always be from some other country in which Spanish is spoken with a slightly different accent/intonation.
This is of course somewhat true of English non-native speakers. Its pretty hard to tell the difference between Dutch or Scandinavians speaking English.