How can I dance like this

PielCanela

Changui
I have seen a few dancers who dance this smooth/soft style and I love it,
is this a representation of NY style ?

how can i dance this way, is it in the feet ? body ? in general what can I do to dance in this way?, I love the low key but impressive flow of the body with the music.

-Any other clips that you may know of people dancing this way ?
-Would you know of instructors that focus in this style, Jareau, the dancer in the video does not give classes :(

jlen.com/jareau_magna.wmv


thank you
 
Es su propio sabor y estilo. Jareau is one of those smooth dancers out there who also has his own style. Jareau totally has his own flavor. The only thing I can tell you is to contact Jareau. :) Otherwise, all you can do is dance like Piel Canela.

Now, there are things you can get from him if you practice. Movement within the music. Notice how his body movement fits the music. How it flows. Notice how his feet glide across the floor. Notice how there not great flashy moves, just a continuous flow. Also, Jareau has been developing his flavor and style for over five years at least. So, it takes time and alot of sweat. :)
 
Lol..Jereau is where I want to be as far as dancing eventually too..I am really working on the flow and simplicity of his style...uhm BUT! before you take that step you really have to work on your basics and timming because he dances With the music and he has moved away from the core foundations of "stepping" on the proper counts...I think if you jump into that unprepared your lead, timming and patterns would come out Extreemly sloppy... What is made to look Simple is Never really that straightforward...Also develop your own style even if you use his as a foundation..atleast thats what I'm trying to do..
 
Karlosism said:
...What is made to look Simple is Never really that straightforward...

I disagree. Looking like that comes from practicing so much that a dancer's moves become economical. All excess energy is drained from each step so the dancer looks as if he/she was floating in space, moving just enough to mantain steerage. But it is still basic technique. Practicing basics -even without all the fancy cuban armlines- will eventually give you that smooth, easy look.
As my teacher often says: If it looks easy, it is easy, just well worked. If it looks difficult it is still easy, just not worked enough.
 
Jones said:
Karlosism said:
...What is made to look Simple is Never really that straightforward...
Looking like that comes from practicing so much that a dancer's moves become economical.
Looks to me like you're both saying the same thing :) The harder I work on my salsa, the simpler it becomes.
 
Karlosism said:
... What is made to look Simple is Never really that straightforward...Also develop your own style even if you use his as a foundation..atleast thats what I'm trying to do..
Totally agree Karlosism. If it was easy, you could right now without any practice. This kind of dancing only comes after years of hard work, not easy work.
 
peachexploration said:
...If it was easy, you could right now without any practice. This kind of dancing only comes after years of hard work, not easy work.

Maybe you want to read my post again Peachexploration. I never said easy work. What my teacher -for I was quoting him- meant, is that the concept, while easy, has to be worked enough and it has to be worked well. I believe there is a saying that goes : "It is better to work smart than to work hard", or something to that effect.

If I may quote another one of my teachers : Salsa did not get to be the most popular dance in the world because its difficulty. Salsa is popular because it is easy and simple.

Setting out to achieve something, anything, by saying you have to work hard is a very ineffective, de-motivating and energy-wasting way of going about it. With proper instruction, clear objectives, a reasonable timetable and motivating practice, even a far-reaching goal can be easy to achieve. And what could be more fun to work at than salsa?

Besides, unless you are planing to become a professional PielCanela, you probably just want to have fun, not work.

Sorry about the speach. That is the schoolteacher in me coming through. :)
 
Jones said:
peachexploration said:
...If it was easy, you could right now without any practice. This kind of dancing only comes after years of hard work, not easy work.

Maybe you want to read my post again Peachexploration. I never said easy work. What my teacher -for I was quoting him- .....
Whether you said it or your teacher doesn't really matter to me. My statement remains the same and I was responding to Karlosism.

Back on topic please.
 
Jones said:
Karlosism said:
...What is made to look Simple is Never really that straightforward...


I disagree. Looking like that comes from practicing so much that a dancer's moves become economical. All excess energy is drained from each step so the dancer looks as if he/she was floating in space, moving just enough to mantain steerage. But it is still basic technique. Practicing basics -even without all the fancy cuban armlines- will eventually give you that smooth, easy look.
As my teacher often says: If it looks easy, it is easy, just well worked. If it looks difficult it is still easy, just not worked enough.


Salsa is popular because anyone can dance knowing as little as the basic step. You don't look too good doing it, but that's not on your mind either and you have fun dancing with the other person. For this you don't even need classes. Now, there's a difference between dancing salsa and being a good salsa dancer. And if you decide to go down that road to become a good dancer, it is still a fun process. So that's why salsa is popular.

Dancing like jareau may look easy, but still it takes years of training to dance like that (isn't that the same as calling it "hard"?)
 
Jones said:
Karlosism said:
...What is made to look Simple is Never really that straightforward...

I disagree. Looking like that comes from practicing so much that a dancer's moves become economical. All excess energy is drained from each step so the dancer looks as if he/she was floating in space, moving just enough to mantain steerage. But it is still basic technique. Practicing basics -even without all the fancy cuban armlines- will eventually give you that smooth, easy look.
As my teacher often says: If it looks easy, it is easy, just well worked. If it looks difficult it is still easy, just not worked enough.
8) I like that quote, wise teacher. i agree subtlety makes the most basic things look difficult but at the same time achieving subtlety takes time and confidence in one's ability which comes from hard work...all to make it look easy :lol:

is that irony? or paradox? yeah paradox ;)
 
PielCanela said:
...-Any other clips that you may know of people dancing this way ?
-Would you know of instructors that focus in this style, Jareau, the dancer in the video does not give classes :(....
Shaka Brown's flow is alot like Jareau's being as though they are partners in crime. (They both run iMambotv.com ) I'm not saying they are the same in dancing, just similar. They both have the smooth vibe going on when they dance so I'm sure they feed off of each other now and then. Not sure about the background in dance for either of them. Need to read about that part when I have a moment. :D Was it you or someone else inquiring about his video in the Member Review Section? Anyway, there are loads of clips in the video section. :)
 
I don't know which clip it was but I agree that Jareau has a unique style, that many people actually fail to appreciate.

PielCanela said:
I have seen a few dancers who dance this smooth/soft style and I love it,
is this a representation of NY style ?

how can i dance this way, is it in the feet ? body ? in general what can I do to dance in this way?, I love the low key but impressive flow of the body with the music.

-Any other clips that you may know of people dancing this way ?
-Would you know of instructors that focus in this style, Jareau, the dancer in the video does not give classes :(

jlen.com/jareau_magna.wmv


thank you
 
NYguero said:
Salsa is popular because anyone can dance knowing as little as the basic step. You don't look too good doing it, but that's not on your mind either and you have fun dancing with the other person.

Even though you said that 2 years ago I would have to disagree (wow, first disagreement on these forums).
youtube.com/watch?v=5seu8YMAcBo&feature=PlayList&p=BCBB171984E82633&index=49

NYguero said:
Dancing like jareau may look easy, but still it takes years of training to dance like that<snip>
Agreed. A lot of stuff after say about a year of dancing is deceptively easy to visualise but actually doing it and doing it well is another story. We all look forward to the day when it all just clicks! :)
 
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