Favourite cha cha cha songs?

I wouldn't go so far as to say I was trolling however I felt your post had an inaccurate subtext that I addressed, namely that those who learn NY style salsa are further from and less aware of the roots of salsa compared to those on the 'Cuban salsa' scene. In some respects the opposite is true although ultimately in my experience in either scene people who have an interest in the history and roots of salsa and are interested in something (dancewise) that is not the norm are in a very small minority.
 
No subtext. Experience with a few classmates who, when I danced 234 678 (breaking 20th left foot 1st) for confounded and told me I was dancing wrong. I am not one of those people that views one style as superior or closer to the real way (1 exception, which I won't state). People are somewhat close minded in every scene (by that I mean style discipline ). I personally would love e to dance all the styles and feel they all have their place.
 
Ok I appreciate that there was no subtext intended however it certainly reads that way for those of us who have spent years hearing the 'authenticity' propaganda that the 'Cuban salsa' scene constantly comes out with (ironically a scene that is mostly based around timbatón and reggaetón). Not that the linear scene is necessarily any better - like you I don't regard one style as superior but I do believe that each style has its strengths and weaknesses, and different dance styles are better suited for certain genres and subgenres of music.

1derpalm said:
I am not one of those people that views one style as superior or closer to the real way (1 exception, which I won't state).
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Son?
 
1derpalm said:
No subtext. Experience with a few classmates who, when I danced 234 678 (breaking 20th left foot 1st) for confounded and told me I was dancing wrong.
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I believe P2 timing is identical or almost identical to son timing and I can assure you that followers on the European 'Cuban salsa' scene are just as likely to find this timing impossible as anyone who dances NY/LA style. Followers get used to a certain timing and may lack the ability to adjust - also they often assume that if they have not encountered something before it must be wrong, meaning they have no incentive to adjust. (Some would argue: in that case just give them the timing they are used to, however when the song is perfect for on 2 that means ignoring rather than dancing to the music.)

Generally ime in Cuban salsa events the music is faster than that heard at salsa events with the result that dancers' timing abilities are often lower in the former than the latter.
 
DJ Yuca said:
Ok I appreciate that there was no subtext intended however it certainly reads that way for those of us who have spent years hearing the 'authenticity' propaganda that the 'Cuban salsa' scene constantly comes out with (ironically a scene that is mostly based around timbatón and reggaetón). Not that the linear scene is necessarily any better - like you I don't regard one style as superior but I do believe that each style has its strengths and weaknesses, and different dance styles are better suited for certain genres and subgenres of music.



Son?
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I feel the same way you do about srules etc. I just like dance, as long as I like the music. I suck ass at Timba.
I was referring to people in my class who only adhere to thd 1 style is right (for instance my 1st salsa teaCher (on 1) hates when follows step jn the direction of the underarm turn on 5. She insists that you must step forward in 5 all the time, going so far as to fight my lead even if I try a movd fm Olivet Pineda ("she's doing it wrong").
I am also referring to follows that have been dancing longer an me, but learned socially, telling me I'm wrong.
As I've stated before I consider myself just passable to kind of good, so j koow I'm not perfect but I generally JNLY do things I'm shown.
 
1derpalm said:
I was referring to people in my class who only adhere to thd 1 style is right (for instance my 1st salsa teaCher (on 1) hates when follows step jn the direction of the underarm turn on 5.

She insists that you must step forward in 5 all the time,



("she's doing it wrong").
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The BODY initiates direction NOT the foot. And the turn should be commenced with body ( and foot ) moving in the turns direction, which is NOT straight forward..
 
Ime on the slot style scene most teachers and dancers assume that on 1 and on 2 in its contemporary form (ET2) are the only timings in existence. On the Cuban scene (again ime) most dancers are only aware of on 1 and assume anything else is wrong. Teachers who are from Cuba I assume are aware of on 2 and on 3; non-Cubans who are really into the dance may or may not also be aware of such timings.
 
terence said:
The BODY initiates direction NOT the foot. And the turn should be commenced with body ( and foot ) moving in the turns direction, which is NOT straight forward..
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I know. Or in lay terms "where I put you" lol. Buy I digress. My point was that I wasn't attacking a particular dance style over another, just close mindedness.
 
DJ Yuca said:
I believe P2 timing is identical or almost identical to son timing
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Timing of steps maybe but timing of body actions, no. That weight transfer on 1 should have a very different feeling than a pause or a tap that most P2 would do. And then it depends if you wish to keep on doing the son action throughout the bar.
 
Back to Chachas, I like a lot of the ones mentioned earlier. Guantanamera from Celia is one of my favorites. I would also include "I like it like that" though not strictly speaking a cha. A different one:
Derroche -Ana Belen with Juan Luis Guerra y 4:40
 
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