Favorit Cha-Cha-Cha

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Changui
Whats your favorite Cha-Cha-Cha for the dancers (can also be a guajira or son montuno)? I always play the same and I looking for some new one.

My Top

1. Cantaloupe Island - Poncho Sanchez
2. Papa Was A Rolling Stone/Papa Fue - Rumba Caliente
3. No Hay Problema - Pink Martini
4. Timbale Groove - Willie Bobo
5. American Sueño - La Excelencia
6. Watch Out! - Mambo Legends Orchestra
7. This Time - Alex Wilson
8. Clock - Mango Salseros
9. Guajira De Un Abandonado - Calambuco
10. Son Montuno Pa Dos (Spanish) - 3D (Perfect for Beginners)
 
Don't forget the Boogaloo style cha cha such as:

Willie Rosario - Watusi Boogaloo
Hector Rivera - I want a chance for Romance

Pretty much everybody loves a good boogaloo tune.
 
here is my list of ones didn't mentioned:

U La La by Jim Gordon
Latin Soul Stew by Spanglish Fly
Quien Sera / Sway by Cubanoson
La Melodi*a by Guaschara
Mari Mari by Picoso
Porque Te Empeas by Cadaver Exquisito
Guajira Pa La Osha by Oscar Ledezma Y Los Okananis
Ohayoo Ohio by Pink Martini
Willie Bobo Medley by Poncho Sanchez
 
some of my favorites...

willie bobo- evil ways & i dont know
eddie palmieri- cinturita & ay que rico
tipical ideal- Vamonos Pa' Senegal
bamboleo- Kachacha (not necessarily to dance to, but listen to)
ray barreto- el nuevo barreto
tito puente- ode to cachao
mongo santamaria- mama papa tu & Me And You Baby (Pica Y Tostao)

some songs that dont strictly fit the mold but i like them all the same...
quantic soul orchestra- regi bugalu
orishas- naci orishas
 
I won a 7 inch copy of that tune in a scooter magazine competition when I was 16! All these years later it's popular with salsa dancers? Crazy . . .

It has universal appeal. If you slow it down just a touch it works well not only for salsa style cha cha but also ballroom, swing and even b-boying.
 
Not to mention amphetamine-induced northern soul dancing, which is how it found success in the late 80s.
 
it is a charanga, and fast to dance cha cha to...
but i do like a good challenge.

Descarga has it listed as a charanga but then I have to ask:
I have never even heard of the charanga music genre. I know about the band format and that it is typically a danzón playing band but what exactly is charanga music genre and what distinguishes it from others? I can't find anything about it as a music genre on the internet, only about the band format.

Found Vamonos Pa'Senegal on spotify. I can see it doesn't sound like chachacha, at least not to me. Just sounds like semi-fast son to me but I assume the percussion must differ somehow.
 
Descarga has it listed as a charanga but then I have to ask:
I have never even heard of the charanga music genre. I know about the band format and that it is typically a danzón playing band but what exactly is charanga music genre and what distinguishes it from others? I can't find anything about it as a music genre on the internet, only about the band format.

Have you looked into these two articles? On a quick reading they both seem to contain some info about what makes certain cuban music being called charanga:

Article: Charanga: http://www.descarga.com/cgi-bin/db/archives/Article16

The Cuban Charanga: http://www.charangasue.com/2009/08/the-cuban-charanga/
 
I won a 7 inch copy of that tune in a scooter magazine competition when I was 16! All these years later it's popular with salsa dancers? Crazy . . .

Hmm...

if that is an original pressing 7 inch on the Barry label (numer 1020), you might want to take good care of storing it as it should be worth around $1000 maybe more if it's in nice condition.
 
Have you looked into these two articles? On a quick reading they both seem to contain some info about what makes certain cuban music being called charanga:

Article: Charanga: http://www.descarga.com/cgi-bin/db/archives/Article16

The Cuban Charanga: http://www.charangasue.com/2009/08/the-cuban-charanga/

Thank you for the links. I checked them out but they don't help much. Both focus mostly on the evolution and instrumentation of the band and both say that charangas mostly play danzón, son, and chachacha. The only reference made to charanga as a music genre is:

The name for both a kind of Cuban music and the bands that play it: a light, elegant, sprightly music; at its most lush and string-laden verging towards kitsch MOR; at its most commercial a light medium for pop covers; at its hardest a virtuosic interplay among overblown flutes, searing strings and percussion.

But then they never elaborate on what is distinctive about the "charanga music as a genre" or about where it falls in the chronological development of music, where as they do talk about the evolution of danzon, chachacha and mambo. I mean there's no way I will ever hear a song by a charanga and think "geez that's a lush string-laden spritely tune, must be a charanga". Whereas if I hear a danzon, chachacha, mambo, son, bolero, rumba, changui, cumbia, merengue, bachata, vallenato etc., I can tell that this is what it is. I mean any of the faster genres played by a charanga can be described as a light, elegant, sprightly music; at its most lush and string-laden verging towards kitsch MOR; at its most commercial a light medium for pop covers; at its hardest a virtuosic interplay among overblown flutes, searing strings and percussion.

I have been mailing back and forth with a musicologist about this who said the following (my emphasis on the lines I thought were most interesting):

John Child certainly knows his charanga history, but he fails to address what constitutes the charanga genre. Spritely music containing flute and strings doesn't go nearly far enough. The truth is, as usual, more complex. When most Cuban musicians think of a charanga-style tune, they may have various performance characteristics in mind: no bongó, chacha bell on the timbales, güiro rather than maracas, unison vocals rather than a single lead singer, etc. But although conjuntos became known for son-montuno, those songs are never called "conjuntos" just because conjuntos play them.*

In short, this is a case of confusion between ensemble types and genres. Most genres are closely linked to the ensembles that first developed them. One cannot think of changüí or rumba without their respective instrumentations and other ensemble characteristics. Yet, as you probably know, changüí ensembles don't only play changüí; they play nengón, regina, quiribá and even son. Conversely, changüí can be played by orquestas, conjuntos or even charangas. What then exists in those performances to designate them as changüí? It too could be syncopated rhythms in the lead vocals or guajeos. It could be a general sense of tempo, the feel of the guayo part or some adaptation of changüí bongó to congas or timbales. Revé and Van Van precisely dealt with all these questions. Every example of arranged rumba likewise deals with these questions. Yet, of all the genres and ensemble types, charanga is most tenuous. As Child writes, charangas were most closely associated with danzón and broadened their repertoire when danzón declined in popularity. Therefore, we can conclude that charangas invented some genres such as chachachá and pachanga, tailored to their instrumental characteristics. But they also played boleros, sones, guarachas, etc. Similarly, when a big band plays a chachachá, no one calls that charanga

I'm listening now. As I expected, there's nothing about this song that couldn't be played by another ensemble type. But since it's played by a charanga, some people call the song itself a charanga. I know this is confusing and I don't know how better to explain it.
.

And as our conversation continued...

I said: But when you listen to this song you can't categorize it as any specific genre? It's not danzon, son, chachacha or mambo or bolero...So any song by a charanga that I don't know what it is I should just say "oh that song is a charanga"?

He answered: Basically, you're right. I could say that song is a guaracha because of its tempo, clave orientation, bass line, etc. It's a guaracha played by a charanga, just as a charanga can play timba without the result being turned into a new genre.

* (I particularly like this point) can you imagine if someone said to you "that song is a conjunto". That's how I feel when someone says a song is a charanga.

Anyway, my dilemma then is that after reading the articles, listening to the song and mailing a musicologist I still will not be able to identify a song as being a "charanga". So perhaps some of you could explain to me what you listen for when you recognize a song as being a charanga. Obviously chrisk and alvinthethird, you are right in line with Descarga and are recognizing it as a charanga song, but I need more specifics to be able to understand.

Like I said, I know the instrumentation of a charanga band but that instrumentation can play all kinds of genres so what exactly is the (to me) mysterious charanga? Or should I just do like I said and if I can't recognize what it is and a charanga is playing it, then just say "it's obviously a charanga" :lol:
 
Hmm...

if that is an original pressing 7 inch on the Barry label (numer 1020), you might want to take good care of storing it as it should be worth around $1000 maybe more if it's in nice condition.

It's an 80s repress on Horace (possibly worth £10 now).

I doubt if that tune was particularly successful on its original release. Imagine if someone in the 60s had said to Hector Rivera: 'I know that song has not sold very well, but keep hold of some copies because in 20 years' time some middle aged amphetamine addicts in the UK will be paying good money for it, then 25 years after that salsa dancers will be doing the cha cha to it.' Hector may well have doubted that person's prophetic abilities.
 
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