Not sure what to do in this dance position

#1
Not sure what the position is called, but basically the lead and follower are facing each other, open position. The lead stops dancing, stands still and holds the followers hands up like he's holding something heavy -- this allows the follower to use his arms as leverage. I guess the follower should be doing some sort of shines or something. In my experience, the lead usually stands there for like 4+ measures of the song and I don't really know what to do!

So questions:
1.What is this position called?
2. Can anyone give some tips or videos on moves you can do as a follower when put in this position by the lead?

Thanks in advance!
 

vit

Son Montuno
#2
Not sure what the position is called, but basically the lead and follower are facing each other, open position. The lead stops dancing, stands still and holds the followers hands up like he's holding something heavy -- this allows the follower to use his arms as leverage. I guess the follower should be doing some sort of shines or something. In my experience, the lead usually stands there for like 4+ measures of the song and I don't really know what to do!

So questions:
1.What is this position called?
2. Can anyone give some tips or videos on moves you can do as a follower when put in this position by the lead?

Thanks in advance!
It was called T-stance from my remembering. Not that popular as it was 10 years ago I think, at least in my venue ...
What to do ... assume the same pose as leader and pretend to expect from him to do stuff he is expecting from you ... :) otherwise do some suzzy-qs and similar stuff or improvise some other way... a few years ago, it was also popular here for the follower to turn the back to him and do some ganchos tango style

one of examples (I'm sure there are better than this out there)

 
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#3
Thanks! Very helpful - and actually just knowing the name allows me to find a ton of information on Google as well!! Yeah, what the lady is doing in the video is what I was looking for. Although it would be funny to try to backlead the leader in to it too! :D
 
#5
Even Ahtoy can't make this move seem appealing.

But ymmv I guess.
The dude is not helping. For this move to work well lead has to act as a support. When he takes some weight off the follow, then she can dance with lower gravity and do what she was not able to do without support.
 
#6
Yeah, the leader in the video seems to be too stiff. He should still be shifting his weight to counter-balance the follower and at least showing some matching shoulder movement or something!

The move gets pretty old fast, hence it tends to come in and our of favor. Personally, I like leading it when I'm dancing with someone who's clearly experienced and engaged but doesn't have a lot of salsa experience. They usually bite and do something more interesting than I could lead into them.
 

Jag75

Son Montuno
#7
I wouldn't worry too much about this move, to be honest. It's old, overdone, and won't do much for your overall progress as a salsa dancer.

Just my 2c
 
#8
in theory: u can do any of your shines and can play with tango-esque leg sweepy stuff

in practice. to a couple of cross over steps and then just drop and slide ur leg inbetween the guys legs... in my experience that seems to be all the guy who is 'leading' this move is looking or for this move to be considered 'complete'
 
#9
I once saw a video in which the woman flipped the hand-hold so that she was now the one supporting and jokingly gave him a look for him to start impressing her. They laughed it off, and if you don't like the move as a follow, maybe you can use that as an exit.
 
#11
2. Can anyone give some tips or videos on moves you can do as a follower when put in this position by the lead?
One option is to flip her over in a wrestling style move at the end of it :p

But seriously, don't bother with this move. You don't have to do it. You won't miss anything in your dancing by doing it.
 
#12
Yeah, the leader in the video seems to be too stiff. He should still be shifting his weight to counter-balance the follower and at least showing some matching shoulder movement or something!
Not only in that video, he looked stiff in his dancing in general. But the key thing is 'looks stiff' to an outsider.
 

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