One of my favourite photos I ever took suffered from this. I caught a girl in the middle of a spin. Great action shot and no blur, even with my compact camera. I thought it looked amazing. She didn't like it because it made her upper arm look fat
Everyone's a Photographer
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One of my favourite photos I ever took suffered from this. I caught a girl in the middle of a spin. Great action shot and no blur, even with my compact camera. I thought it looked amazing. She didn't like it because it made her upper arm look fat
how do you get a picture taken down if you are not on facebook. This is my pet peeve, I am not on facebook so alot of pictures are being taken, I have no idea if I end up being what is published online and no control over what is done with my image. Is this fair, should promoters give us a disclaimer or the details of all the professional photographers so we can contact them afterwards about our images being used ?
Normally people will remove photos if asked. Depending on the country, you have different rights over the use of your image, but they are generally quite limited.
Have you tried asking the promotors or the photographer for their details?
londongirl
Son
Someone doth protest too much
Your photos look great, you have nothing to worry about there
It's flattering when someone takes my picture, and i'm the type of person who goes around un-tagging myself from bad photos. But at a big event or festival, if someone saddles up beside me with camera gear in hand, I get fuzzies. Thank about it. Out of thousands of people dancing, they decided to take a picture of YOU. They must have seen something they liked, otherwise they wouldn't have taken the pic. I get insulted when after seeing someone take snaps of me, none of the pics are actually chosen to be posted. :-( I must up my game!
It might just be that the photos didn't work technically. Dance clubs feature low light and fast moving people. Pretty horrible conditions to shoot in. Many shots get cut. A pro will have a much higher hit rate, but will probably be more fussy too.
Not enough get cut. Pictures from the last party I went to are up on Facebook and there's about six of the same couple during one dance. The poses are almost identical.
I put it down to storage space being relatively cheap and uploading being simple so that people no longer need to use their own judgement when posting pictures. Just throw everything on Facebook and see what people "Like".
It's hard to decide exactly where to draw the line. Your example is obvously over it, but you will cut differently if you are trying to show your best work than if you are trying to include as many of the attendees as possable.
Posting too many pics means people will get boored quickly and move on without even seeing the good ones amongst the bad.
Idalis
Changui
To be honest, Ive had issues with this. I find it a type of violation especially with the advent of FB. The "Salsarazzi" (is what I call them) will take these pictures without permission and post them online for god knows who to tag and see. These pictures are usually taken of me while im caught off -guard going into a dip with a partner or sweaty after a dance. I take issue with this because I have a mixture of friends, family and coworkers, work contacts whom I'd rather not see my salsa" double-life" on FB. Ive had to ask the salsarazzi from time to time to delete my photos but whats out there is out there. Some clubs I avoid attending because I know the promoter takes too many photos. Used to be you could go to a club without worrying about this issue but must be a sign of the times.
You can just activate the setting in facebook that allows you to first accept or decline a tag if it is shown on your timeline.
I've always avoided friending anyone from work which is hard as a lot of guys from my company are regular dancers.
Do you know that you can hide photos from your timeline?
londongirl
Son
Set all photos to default be private. Them you can change to be visible to certain friends when you have time. Put all work people into a list and make all salsa related stuff invisible to them. It takes time but Facebook is totally controllable.
bas
Changui
^^ That.
I have always done that anyway. In the past I've had 2 profiles to do that but it has become a lot easier after the introduction of lists. Like Londongirl says, it takes some time to set it up but after that it's really easy to maintain and separating posts/pictures/etc becomes a breeze.
I have always done that anyway. In the past I've had 2 profiles to do that but it has become a lot easier after the introduction of lists. Like Londongirl says, it takes some time to set it up but after that it's really easy to maintain and separating posts/pictures/etc becomes a breeze.
Idalis
Changui
I have used some of the protections you've mentioned, however the tag protections weren't always there on FB. At times after a night of salsa the next morning would almost be a race to do damage control of whatever photos ended up making it to the wall. Some photos Im embarrassed for even my salsa friends to see let alone fam. and coworkers. Im just saying that Salsarazzi need to think before they snap and post photos. Maybe get the person's permission, send the photo in a message first,before posting them,especially if the person has requested previous photos be taken down, even if it is on your own FB page. Chances are you share several mutual friends that will still see the photos. Whatever happened to just dancing without worrying about photo ops?
bas
Changui
See my post in the DJs thread. Partially it's a money thing. There is no way organizers can pay market compliant rates for photographers (even Valentin works well under market compliant). Heck, most can't even afford break even rates (contrary to popular believe it does cost money to make digital pictures
). So instead organizers rely on pretty much anybody with a camera to take pics so their event gets exposure. Unless that changes the pictures that you see online won't change either. Now we're getting into the legal part of things. Realistically there is very little you can do in most countries to prevent a picture from coming online if it was taken at an event you voluntarily attended. Heck, the smart (legally operating
) organizers have a clause in their terms of business that states you give the right for pictures to be taken and used. And if you combine that with photographers who don't have a reputation/business to worry about you'll see just about all pictures come online, no matter how bad they are.Again, money. Organizers are often competing on price these days so they're looking to get as many people to come as they possibly can get. For promotion of their events they rely (amongst other things) on the pictures of the event going online, creating a buzz and thus creating that exposure. As they know that the photographer will be (rightfully
) held responsible for the bad picture and not the event organizer (debatable) they don't care what pictures come online, as long as they do come online and generate buzz.Luckily that's no longer the case.
It's a fine line trying to make sure people are happy, but there is no way anyone could be expected to run photos by everyone before posting. It just takes far far far too long.
It's easier if a photographer is part of a local scene as they have more investment in keeping people happy, though the worst I see are still those who snap away and empty their phone / memory card straight onto Facebook.
It went away with the advent of social networking. Still, if a few pics of people dancing are a problem, think how much harder it is for people going for a night out drinking. All those silly things which were great fun, but best look a lot worse all over Facebook when you're sober. I'm glad my teens and 20's were pre-facebook.
Idalis
Changui
Idalis
Changui
This is true, Id rather be caught dancing than with a bottle in my hand, thank goodness salsa takes away any desire to drink