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SDsalsaguy

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#62
Have a copy of Juliet's book ordered myself, based on largely positive comments from people here. Really hope it's much much better than her book on ballroom (which was very problematic). We'll see... *fingers crossed*
 
#63
Have a copy of Juliet's book ordered myself, based on largely positive comments from people here. Really hope it's much much better than her book on ballroom (which was very problematic). We'll see... *fingers crossed*
I've only read a very small section, in which I found 3 comments that, had some inaccuracy .

When one writes a bio, the sources that contribute, are often difficult to vet .The sample size also has a baring .
Having said that, a good effort , with some nice pics.

PS.. what was the problem, with the book on BR ?
 

vit

Son Montuno
#64
You may be interested to know that, the Syl. was put together by a VERY well known lady in salsa, and same for the guy who assisted. There is also, a past latin champion, who also was involved ( whom I know )

The syl. is on sale on the ISTD web sire, I believe. .All the English Soc. now have a syl. for salsa .
Can you share their names ? Any info about source of that "syllabus" (if it's actually the same book - mine is dated 1999 - while that Paul published his book 1998, so I thought there was a connection). I mean, I can't find even a CBL or DQN in that syllabus (unless it has a different name). Figure names in the book are: Salsa basic to side, Cross basic, dropping back, opening out, separado, chicas turn, chicos turn, para sigure, vuelta para dos, cambio mano, cambio simple, los salserso, sombrero, cojela chica, casino turn, the scarf, torvil y dean, simple pretzel turn, salsa circle, double turn, loop the loop.

Anything except sombrero isn't ringing any bell to me. What is the usage of it ?
 
#65
Can you share their names ? Any info about source of that "syllabus" (if it's actually the same book - mine is dated 1999 - while that Paul published his book 1998, so I thought there was a connection). I mean, I can't find even a CBL or DQN in that syllabus (unless it has a different name). Figure names in the book are: Salsa basic to side, Cross basic, dropping back, opening out, separado, chicas turn, chicos turn, para sigure, vuelta para dos, cambio mano, cambio simple, los salserso, sombrero, cojela chica, casino turn, the scarf, torvil y dean, simple pretzel turn, salsa circle, double turn, loop the loop.

Anything except sombrero isn't ringing any bell to me. What is the usage of it ?
It seems to have no connection to the Harris book. That one uses primarily english descriptions like underarm turns, open break, mambo break, etc. The only similar name is opening out.
 

SDsalsaguy

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#67
PS.. what was the problem, with the book on BR ?
Total hatchet job on competitive ballroom, where it's nothing but a big scam, everyone is taken advantage of by everyone else, no one has any agency, fictionalized caricatures "speak" for entire segments of the industry, etc. Sure, there are legitimate criticisms to be made--several of which I've made myself--but it is problematic as scholarship from the word "go," and considered offensive by almost everyone I know who's read it and lives in the ballroom world.
 

vit

Son Montuno
#70
By the way they seem to be four salsa books on the ISTD website. Which one do you have?
ISTD site is a bit messy, but I see there are 4 books mentioned, but mine isn't among them. It's named Salsa syllabus notes for pre-bronz, bronze, silver & gold. Dated 1999, I suppose it's obsolete, I never really read it, looked useless at the first sight. Person mentioned by terence could be Susana Montero, it looks like she assisted in some of never salsa books, she has some salsa DVDs and assisted in some (Super Mario for instance), but her dancing was never interesting to me either ...
 
#71
Can you share their names ? Any info about source of that "syllabus" (if it's actually the same book - mine is dated 1999 - while that Paul published his book 1998, so I thought there was a connection). I mean, I can't find even a CBL or DQN in that syllabus (unless it has a different name). Figure names in the book are: Salsa basic to side, Cross basic, dropping back, opening out, separado, chicas turn, chicos turn, para sigure, vuelta para dos, cambio mano, cambio simple, los salserso, sombrero, cojela chica, casino turn, the scarf, torvil y dean, simple pretzel turn, salsa circle, double turn, loop the loop.

Anything except sombrero isn't ringing any bell to me. What is the usage of it ?
Will PM you the names..

and, it's been many years that I read the book, so can't remember specifics. What I do recall, was the ridiculous outfits that were used in the pics. , but, there again, this was produced for the English dance scene.
 
#72
Person mentioned by terence could be Susana Montero, it looks like she assisted in some of newer salsa books,

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Now I don't have to PM you !.. I'm trying to recall one guy and one lady, who had input .The lady was a former Brit. latin champion, and the guy, if I recall well, had a theatre background, He did commentary on some latin (Salsa )comps, on TV.
 
#74
Total hatchet job on competitive ballroom, where it's nothing but a big scam, everyone is taken advantage of by everyone else, no one has any agency, fictionalized caricatures "speak" for entire segments of the industry, etc. Sure, there are legitimate criticisms to be made--several of which I've made myself--but it is problematic as scholarship from the word "go," and considered offensive by almost everyone I know who's read it and lives in the ballroom world.
This is what I disliked about the genre from the git go. But, to realise, it is a "Business" , which the newly initiated ,do not realise .That of course, is no justification.

What disturbs me more, is this ; IF one criticises their approach and or music, you will be castigated for daring to point out, the direction the genre has taken.

" There are none so blind ,as those that ,
will not see"
 
#75
ISTD site is a bit messy, but I see there are 4 books mentioned, but mine isn't among them. It's named Salsa syllabus notes for pre-bronz, bronze, silver & gold. Dated 1999, I suppose it's obsolete, I never really read it, looked useless at the first sight. Person mentioned by terence could be Susana Montero, it looks like she assisted in some of never salsa books, she has some salsa DVDs and assisted in some (Super Mario for instance), but her dancing was never interesting to me either ...
Forgot to add.. I was told Mario opted out..
 

SDsalsaguy

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#76
This is what I disliked about the genre from the git go. But, to realise, it is a "Business" , which the newly initiated ,do not realise .That of course, is no justification.

What disturbs me more, is this ; IF one criticises their approach and or music, you will be castigated for daring to point out, the direction the genre has taken.

"There are none so blind ,as those that ,
will not see"
There are absolutely legitimate criticisms to be made -- people who regularly get taken advantage of, planet-sized egos, etc. To everyone I've spoken with though, it all reads as sour grapes.
 

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