The studio where I learned Casino started offering LA classes and I gotta admit...I liked it. It feels more elevated and "preppy" than Casino...just like everybody said. I'm really looking forward to learning more of it. Any LA Salseros out there?
My first LA experience...
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I'm not an "LA salsero" as such, but I trained in LA style. Yes I like it -- even though these days I'm doing more and more on2, I still feel there's nothing like a good blast of LA style dancing to a stomping number for getting a salsa fix. I've never been to LA and don't know how salseros in LA dance though -- oh well, maybe one day.
Yeah...I'm still dying to take some on 2 classes, but I haven't found a teacher in this area that I enjoy yet. I'll just enjoy my LA experience for now
Unfortunately, he's too far away from Esa...LARA7799 said:
Eric and G are in Orlando. I've done LA Style. I must say I don't care for it BUT what matters is that you love it, Esa... Glad you're having fun and enjoyin it.
Not to sidetrack too much, but I love watching him perform! He's so expressive. Back to the topic at hand, I've taken a few classes from an instructor in "LA Style" salsa, and hated it. To be fair, I don't think she was the best teacher. Either way, Esa, if you like it, run with it!peachexploration said:Unfortunately, he's too far away from Esa...LARA7799 said:
The sharpness, the flash-bang feel, the sense of flight (well almost), and when you get the right song, the satisfaction of *really* hitting the 1.LARA7799 said:
Don't get me wrong -- I love dancing NY style when I get the right song for it, but not all salsa songs feel right danced on2 as far as I'm concerned.
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esa negrita... said:
Wow wow wow!!!
When I'll come to Florida I'll be happy to make you spin like a minipimer!
I will also make you cross the fired circle
I'm happy for that, cause I'm not able to lead a casino lady.
As for the rest, the only remaining problem is our heights differences; I dont think that a pair of high heel boots would help me: can you dance on your knees?
Mambo!! I don't know about the spinning thing (at least not for a while)but...what makes Casino follows harder to lead? Is it the Spaghetti Arms?
esa negrita... said:
Nothing at all!!
Casino followers are the easiest to lead.....if you're dancing Casino, just the same as NY followers are the best if your dancing NY style and LA followers are the best if your dancing LA style. Personally I think it's great that your learning another style, gives you another feather in your cap and more opportunties to dance I dance mainly LA and Cuban, although lately I have been trying On2 (not very impressively I might add) but even if I get bitten by the On2 bug I certainly wouldn't want to miss out on dancing LA or Cuban when I get the chance
I can't understand those who say 'Now I only dance On2', why? So you go girl!!! Learn them all, and when people are wondering why you get more dances than everyone else, tell them...........because you can!
if you use your LA lessons to widen your horizons rather than to change direction completely you can't go wrong. It'll be NY next! For the last few months I've been learning Argentine Tango too.
I'm an LA dancer....most people here in Singapore are though....that or On2 (NY) - but people only recently doing this also.
I have to say i've never tried other forms but i know i have problems following a cuban dancer and probably would to casino also as i'd keep going for the heavy 1
hope you enjoy it though, the spinning opoprtunties in LA are enormous if you like spinning!
I have to say i've never tried other forms but i know i have problems following a cuban dancer and probably would to casino also as i'd keep going for the heavy 1
hope you enjoy it though, the spinning opoprtunties in LA are enormous if you like spinning!
salcero2005 said:
Hmmm, I really liked the clip (although there was some non-LA dancers in there). And I do appreciate the flashy-showiness of LA style. But I notice unless if it's a really well-seasoned pro LA dancer, then I really enjoy it. But b/w an average NY-styler or average LA-style or even average Casinero, then I always go for NY. But I realize my taste is totally biased being that I'm from NY and mostly what I've been exposed to.. Now in Dallas, not sure there is either style here... :?:
Generally speaking, Casino-trained followers have a habit of wandering off the slot as Casino is not slot based. This makes some moves difficult to lead. Spaghetti arms may be another factor, but the most complaints I hear from leaders of slot based styles (LA/NY) about Casino-trained followers are about their lack of slot awareness.esa negrita... said:
I can see that. The first time I danced with an LA dancer, I didn't know what a "slot" was, and was expecting to get tossed and turned in typical Casino fashion. Because of that, I was shifting a lot to the left and right and probably in other directions too. I'm hoping I'll get a better feel for it with time though.
LARA7799 said:salcero2005 said:
Hmmm, I really liked the clip (although there was some non-LA dancers in there). And I do appreciate the flashy-showiness of LA style. But I notice unless if it's a really well-seasoned pro LA dancer, then I really enjoy it. But b/w an average NY-styler or average LA-style or even average Casinero, then I always go for NY. But I realize my taste is totally biased being that I'm from NY and mostly what I've been exposed to.. Now in Dallas, not sure there is either style here... :?:
You're in Dallas, TX? That case I would say the majority is considered LA style. Just not a whole lotta of dips and flips. But it's basically on1. I've stopped referring to styles as "LA" or "NY" oriented. IMHO there's no point. On1 and on2 are more meaningful since people's personal styles vary so much. I've seen a few dance on2, especially at La Esperanza.
And there's where I find some confusion. Like you, I consider it On1 or On2, not LA or NY. Then again, like the few that dance On2 here...not the same as dancing it On2 w/ a NYer. Although, I'm not sure if maybe they're just not as fluent or if they just lead it differently. Or maybe it's me and I just feel like it's different. Because there are 1 or 2 leads here that lead it like any other strong NY On2er. Never been to Esperanza's. I prefer Hailey's. Ever been? And Stratos is ok.[[/i]
Totally. I'd seen people refer to 'on-1 with on-2 style' on here and I was sort of confused about what that meant (doesn't the style come from the individual rather than the footwork?).LARA7799 said:
But on my one-night experience in LA a couple of weeks ago, I did have one great dance, and it was on-1 (all of them were)... but it felt more like dancing with a very nice, considerate, gentle, not-too-flashy NY-bred partner. Felt just like home.
So I guess there are particular styles that go with the footwork... I still don't think they are a result of the footwork though. I think it is coincidental that NY dancers dance on-2 and also have this particular regional flavor.
I don't know that much about Casino... but I have definitely followed leads who danced circular or Cuban styles, and it seems like it would be easier for a circular leader to lead a slot-style follower than the reverse. The circular dance seems slower/smoother with fewer rapid directional changes, seems like it might be easier to follow for an unfamiliar follower.esa negrita... said:
It might be that all the circle-style dancers I've found have been non-studio-trained though, so these observations could be a total artifact.
Alternatively a leader who is used to dancing Rueda might have trouble with a follower who didn't know those moves (I've never seen a slot rueda, I'd guess slot leaders are mostly used to having to run the show).