How to do a 360 CBL

360 CBL- How-to

Hey there Piel Canela. A 360 CBL is a fundamental move of advanced partnerwork, and great for keeping the dance moving throughout the floor. When dancing on2 you do a normal CBL, it's a bit easier when you give your partner an inside turn, then step towards your partner on count 5 (right foot) and stay in a half closed position. to bring your left foot around to the line of dance on count 1. A common mistake is to rush out of the 360CBL, which can throw you off. There's plenty of time for it. You can see one done here:
clavekazi.com/Shaka_commercial_VOL2_512k.wmv
40 second clip, the 360CBL is shown quickly around 19secs.
When dancing on 1, the step in is on beat "7"
See you on the floor!
sGB
 
i actually have a video showing that move filmed during a private lesson. As soon as I go back home i'll upload it for you (its on2). peace. Hey shaka that instructional video looks pretty cool!
 
Hey Shaka,

On a related note, I just got your footwork and body isolation DVD in the mail a couple of days ago. It's very well done, I'm spending a little time each evening working through the sections.

I have question: I'd like to have a little more flavor in my basic step. I like the jazzed up basic step you teach at the end of your DVD. But I'm talking about just me, in front of a mirror doing a solo basic. When I do this along side my partner she looks cool and I feel that I look, well should I say to "Basic".

It's ticking me off because I know I can do better.

Do have any suggestions about were I should put some emphasis (feet, hips, rib-cage, shoulders, etc.)? Coordination of the arms with the feet?

I value your opinion and would appreciate any thoughts you may want to pass on.

Best Wishes,

Salsero JR
 
Re: 360 CBL- How-to

shaka said:
Hey there Piel Canela. A 360 CBL is a fundamental move of advanced partnerwork, and great for keeping the dance moving throughout the floor. When dancing on2 you do a normal CBL, it's a bit easier when you give your partner an inside turn, then step towards your partner on count 5 (right foot) and stay in a half closed position. to bring your left foot around to the line of dance on count 1. A common mistake is to rush out of the 360CBL, which can throw you off. There's plenty of time for it... sGB
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That works even better when dancing On1!
 
Re: 360 CBL- How-to

shaka said:
Hey there Piel Canela. A 360 CBL is a fundamental move of advanced partnerwork, and great for keeping the dance moving throughout the floor. When dancing on2 you do a normal CBL, it's a bit easier when you give your partner an inside turn, then step towards your partner on count 5 (right foot) and stay in a half closed position. to bring your left foot around to the line of dance on count 1. A common mistake is to rush out of the 360CBL, which can throw you off. There's plenty of time for it. You can see one done here:
clavekazi.com/Shaka_commercial_VOL2_512k.wmv
40 second clip, the 360CBL is shown quickly around 19secs.
When dancing on 1, the step in is on beat "7"
See you on the floor!
sGB
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hey shaka,
i just ordered complete Step-by-Step Set worth 100$ but forgot to print it. Is there any way i can email address where i would know the Order Status? how lond does it take to get the DVD's? im based in Kuala Lumpur,Malaysia. I tried to go back to that page but couldnt .Also, i didnt register before ordering so theres no way of retrieving my orders. pls help me here
thanks,
Sachin Dere
 
guys,
how long does it take to get the DVDs?i have ordered from Malaysia after watching shaka browns clips.....whats the estimated shipping time?has anyone ordered the DVDs outside of US?
thanks,
Sac
 
I asked my teacher today about the 360 because I noticed on the video posted in this thread that the dancers turn more than once.
After describing the pattern to my teacher I was told that indeed the pattern shown on that video is called the 360, even if the dancers in it are doing a 540 degree rotation.
I asked why the misname and he said that because anyone can name a salsa pattern as they wish, a lot of moves out there have names that make sense only to the people that named them.

I asked him what would be the proper name for this figure and he said that Continuous Crossbody Lead would be the most accurate way to describe that pattern.

He also showed me how to do it doing only 360 degrees, but he said, unless the follower keeps rhythm very precisely, it is difficult to do. He also mentioned that most really good dancers will do as much as two and a half, or even three and a half rotations.
 
360 CBLs, basic step, and shipping

Hey there guys, so many posts, I am goign to try and answer them all here now.
Short answers:
Shipping to the Far East is possible. We've sent videos to Japan, China, Singapore, Thailand and Korea from recollection. Your order to Malaysia has shipped, so it should be arriving within a couple of weeks, you may be subject to a customs duty, it depends on the country, we try to make package receipt as simple as possible and ship as quickly as possible.

360 CBL- We call it a 360 CBL because a standard CBL changes your perspective by 180 Degrees. If you're facing north and do a CBL, at the end of the CBL you will now be facing south, and vice versa. A 360CBL goes in a full circle, so you return to the same positions that you began. So if you do a 360 CBL and do not open up on 1 (Just closing it at "6-7") then you will be standing just about in the same place that you started, and facing the same direction after having gone through a 360 degree rotation. Yes, it's possible to do more than 360 with it as well, or less.
Will respond to the basic step question in the next post.

sGB
salsamor.com
 
Salsero JR said:
Hey Shaka,

I have question: I'd like to have a little more flavor in my basic step. I like the jazzed up basic step you teach at the end of your DVD. But I'm talking about just me, in front of a mirror doing a solo basic. When I do this along side my partner she looks cool and I feel that I look, well should I say to "Basic".

It's ticking me off because I know I can do better.

Do have any suggestions about were I should put some emphasis (feet, hips, rib-cage, shoulders, etc.)? Coordination of the arms with the feet?

Salsero JR
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Hey there JR, the first thing to do is take a deep breath, don't let it upset you. I would say that when it coems to the basic step, the idea of "less is more" can help you. There are certain things that are enforced when we first begin such as the basic step, however it's more important when learnign proper lead/follow timing, than it is when it comes to your individual expression.
For example, if you are dancing and you know that you always lead a right turn on 1-2-3, that right turn will be led on 1-2-3 whether you are moving your feet in a basic or night. What this can do is free you up to do other things, so long as you lead your patterns on the expected timing ( a CBL on 1-2-3, a left turn with the proper prep, correct timing on the Copa, etc) What this now gives you the opportunity to do is express yourself according to what the music makes you feel like doing.

Doing the isolation exercises are helpful in that they can tell you specifics on how to move, but they also give you the ability to move more parts of yourself without thinking. For example, if you toss an octopus 8 baseballs, he would have no problems catching them. If you toss a person the same 8 balls, they would be limited in their options. the octopus doesn't have to think about the fact that it has 8 appendages, it just uses them. In a similar sense, if you practice shoulder rolls, rib isolations, etc, then you may come on an a part of hte music that makes you want to move differently, and you will use whatever part of your body is available for that, and be comfortable with it.

For practical purposes, I would suggest playing with the basic step timing and trying to emphasize differnt parts of the basic. For example "I'm goign to put a heavy emphasic on the first half of my basic, and I'm just going to roll my shoulders for the second half." Or "I'm going to step on 1 and 5 and just know where "23" and "67" are. Playing with the timing in that fashion. you will find that you can get a way with a lot more than just the basic step if you approach it with that angle. Good luck, and I'll see you guys on the floor!

sGB

salsamor.com
 
Tritto

That like a "Threepeat"? Thanks for the welcomes, this looks like a fun board of peopel that are interested in dancing and learning more each day. I'm glad to be here.
sGB
 
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shaka said:
That like a "Threepeat"? ......
sGB
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:lol: :lol:


Thanks for the detailed info on the 360 CBL, Shaka. I think we've have this question before but not as detailed. Very nice to have a great dancer/instructor around! :D Piel, how's it going so far?
 
going well still struggling to make the ON2 conversion, is like re learning everything again. but i am doing this even if I have to do the ON2 CBL some 2000 times to get as comfortable with it as I was in ON1
 
Shaka! What a delight to have you on the salsa forum! i have just one of your videos--the first step by step--and not only think it's very nice, but that you come across like a rather nice person in it. No awful showing off and hard sell. I like that.

On 360 degree CBLs... I've known a few that get me completely airborne!!!! Leads put that swing into it and before you know it, your feet have left the ground. Anyone know what I mean?

Mala
 
Mala said:
Shaka! What a delight to have you on the salsa forum! i have just one of your videos--the first step by step--and not only think it's very nice, but that you come across like a rather nice person in it. No awful showing off and hard sell. I like that.

On 360 degree CBLs... I've known a few that get me completely airborne!!!! Leads put that swing into it and before you know it, your feet have left the ground. Anyone know what I mean?

Mala
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hey Mala,
are those DVDs danced On1 or On2? just ordered mine but read somewhere on the forum that its On2. crossing my fingers and hoping that its On1

cheers,
Sac
 
Fellow members: Please check the member review section for video/dvds info regarding these accomplished dancers/instructors.

I know everyone is excited that Shaka and Magna are members here at SF (I am too! :D ) but lets keep this one on track please which is about: How to do a 360 CBL?
 
peachexploration said:
... but lets keep this one on track please which is about: How to do a 360 CBL?
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A good exercise is a rueda move called sorpresa. In it the leaders do a Dile que no (CBL) and then lead themselves into a continous Cross body lead, looking to hold their partner in closed position as they reach around her body with only one hand.
As the name of this pattern indicates, there is no telling how many times they have to go around each other -it is a surprise!- so they have to get really good at mantaining momentum around their partner.
For us girls it is very easy: it feels exactly like what it is: a continous Dile que no.
 
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