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Papa Montero is an interesting case. She didn't write the original from the research I have done, but she added to it. There are at least 4 versions of the song. It's been recorded many times, and I wish I could hear more of them to hear the differences. Next time I'm in Havana, I'll try to find...

I'm curious, not judging. You do know that the artist makes zero money from that? Personally, I think the day of the musician/band is over very soon. It's sad, but true. I have a ton of music I recorded in Cuba and elsewhere, but I'm deciding what to do with it.

I have been hearing that CD's, and probably digital downloads, as opposed to streaming, are making a comeback. Do you just listen to streams, or do you want to know you own your music?

I don't have any idea, but could it just be a live recording someone made of a descarga somewhere?

Thanks for the video references!

BTW, I watch this whenever I'm in Havana. It's a must watch, and mostly Punto Libre, but some other genres as well. I love the Contreversia.

Que Viva Chango is pure son cubano. Viva Yemaya is also son. She had several songs that used the same melody/chords. Also Que Viva Fidel. She lived very close to me in Buenavista (across from my best friends house near 42 y 66). I only met her though when she was very old and really didn't...

I did a little digging in my archive and ran across the proceedings of 4th Annual Festival of Son "Ignacio Piñeiro" from 1984 in Manzanillo. It's unlikely that many have this transcript, but I bought a lot of "material" from CIDMUC in the early 90's when Olavo was still there. Here is a summary...

Son 14 debut was in 1978 in Santiago de Cuba. First album was 1979 (A Bayamo en coche). Rumbavana was active, they recorded a young Adalberto Alvarez tune (Con un besito mi amor) in 1971 He also took over his fathers Orquesta Avance Juvenil and his music was definitely influenced by Chappotin...

Please don't make assumptions about what I know or don't know about "real" son. Do I need to show you my carnet? Or maybe, my sessions with little know musicians like Richard Egües, Blas Egües, Enrique Pla, Angle Bonne, Emilio Morales, Emilio Vega, Robertico Garcia... I can go on. Or maybe my...

BTW, I've pretty much given up trying to convince people of what to call things. But, if it shows up on a thread, I assume there is interest. Most people in the world call cha, mambo, danzon etc. Salsa, but...

Yes, if you read music.

It's my blogs, so there you have it. I obviously know nothing ;) And no, definitions didn't change since 2012.

It doesn't, and son montuno is an even later development than son. https://salsablanca.com/ethno/cuban-music-styles/cuban-son-complex/

Ballroom dancers, who think it's "Cuban", and yes, the average Cuban dancer can probably dance 90% of that. Adding rumba is not anything special, it's in the blood and starts at birth. Of course, not everyone dances, but most do, starting very young. Some are better than others, but...

Compare that to a "real" son, not even close.

Oye Como Va is not a son. It is a cha-cha-chá. There should be no real discussion about this from a musical point of view. Listen to the piano part, and the cha bell.

And here is Olavo Alen Rodriguez talking about danzon, cha-cha-chá etc.

Danzon existed long before Mambo, so there's that. First known danzon was Las Alturas de Simpson, written in 1879. And yes, mambo is evolved from Danzon, as well as cha-cha-cha. Compare the basslines, percussion etc. Son came from Santiago/Guantanamo not the big cities. Not from "legit"...

Again, not Mambo ;)