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Last pollution: Pastorita is a Changüi classic, and the organic transfer to Songo is a clear indicator to the influence of Changüí in Songo. I have many recipes of Paella, too, if my off-thread activity is appreciated. :-)

Btw, I could post both versions here if I find a matching thread, I’ve polluted this one enough with my usual useless “contributions”

Not to Nerds like me where it’s a neandertalensis of early Songo examples! I love the Van Van version too. With Baretto’s perspective I agree. It’s fantastic to compare the different evolutions at the time, that’s it. Both versions are not my favorites nowadays, but historically I find them...

I agree, but I think US American approach to life is mainly to have fun. meaning in a bar sitting besides you they are really open, but when they are with their friends at a Salsa event they are focused on that. However, it’s only my perspective. Generally I find US Americans great for this...

Absolutely! When I went dancing Tango I WANTED them to ignore me besides dancing.

…aaand… productionwise - from a composing/arranging perspective - Ray Barretto is god to me. I advice to listen to “Guararey de Pastora” in his version and los Van Van’s version - both recorded the same year! I use this a lot to show differences from “real” Cuban music and Salsa

Meaning, “comedia” as lp, sorry. Hector Lavoe.

Sorry I can’t really contribute much to this thread as my interest in Salsa history is young and marked by Spotify etc. However, from a production perspective, “el cantante” comes to my mind? Or not?

Or 15 or 20 or 50!

True. But from “not digging” to changing jazz history according to own taste there’s a long way. I really wish one day we have a similar collection, and please including the Latin American contribution. Unfortunately that’s lots of work and not much money. Let’s hope someone finds motivation. :-)

… and of course no Bossa Nova, don’t recall much about Horace Silver nor Soul-Jazz etc and let’s not even get started with Latin jazz or Chick Corea etc. no 80ties either, a list as long - as jazz history from the 50ties on. However, their documentation of New Orleans Jazz until the 1950ies is a...

I would have to rewatch it, but in my memory they also omit all of Miles Davis’ activities after the 50ties, all of free jazz, if I recall right Keith Jarrett and many others don’t exist, of course no European Jazz, no Peter Erskine, no M-Base and a huge army of important musicians from Bill...

But yes, a well researched documentary about Caribbean-Latin influence into jazz (call it as you want) is still to be made.

I’m not even getting into the latinos. From the 50ties on, that documentary gets close to brain washing with the basic message that jazz died then and the only one continuing to preserve jazz are - by coincidence - the fantastic master and center of the jazz evolution, mister Wynton Marsalis...

“Golf” instead of “gold”. My autocorrector finds new ways of destroying my life every day.

That documentary is fascinating to me anyways. It consists of about 50% of pure golf and 50% of absolute b***s**t And you mentioned a new aspect of it - all that it omits or doesn’t mention. I’m afraid Burns took the wrong people as advisers, at least for the 5 last DVDs. It’s not often that I...

I just realize he was! However, you getting banned would be a disaster for me, so let’s stay safe. However, in Spanish context, soplo is literal and has no double meaning that I know of.

Ya me intrigas. What is “soplo” para vosotros?

Some little thing I saw on my Facebook feed:

Guys, it’s just such a luxury reading all your posts, thanks for all your contributions. I still love this forum after all these years.