Juan de Marcos Gonzalez lectures on Cuban music

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  1. arsenio123

    arsenio123 Son Montuno

    Juan de Marcos de Gonzalez came to the US to play with his All Stars and give lectures on Cuban music.

    Here his first lecture:

    In this first lecture he will sit down tell a lot and uses tapes to give musical examples later on a band plays.

    Saludos,
    Arsenio123
     
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  2. timberamayor

    timberamayor ¡WEPA!

    Thanks. I'll check this out when I have more time.
     
  3. timberamayor

    timberamayor ¡WEPA!

    Finally got around to watching the whole thing. thanks. It was interesting. I haven't heard from anyone in oriente that the use of the "clave as we know it" didn't start until son traveled to Havana/Matanzas. Interesting.

    I personally am very interested in Changüí and have been to Guantanamo twice - once for the changüí festival and once just on my own. So I enjoyed hearing him speak about kiribá, nengón and changüí.
     
  4. arsenio123

    arsenio123 Son Montuno

    The sticks were added in Havana under the influence of Rumba. In the Son de Oriente you can find a clave hidden in the song/poetry! Be patience more lectures to come..

    Thanks you liked it.

    Saludos,
    Arsenio123
     
  5. arsenio123

    arsenio123 Son Montuno



    In this second lecture he explains the influence of Afrocuban music on the musical development of Cuba.

    Enjoy,
    Arsenio123
     
  6. arsenio123

    arsenio123 Son Montuno



    In this third lecture he explains the development of Danzon and Cuban Social Dance of course with musical examples. You see the development from contradanza via danzon to mambo, chachacha and casino.

    Enjoy,
    Arsenio123
     
  7. arsenio123

    arsenio123 Son Montuno



    In this fourth lecture he explains the development of Cuban Hip Hop with a Telmary Diaz.

    Enjoy,
    Arsenio123
     
  8. arsenio123

    arsenio123 Son Montuno



    In this fifth lecture he explains the European influence ( a lot of flamenco) on the development of Cuban popular music.

    Enjoy,
    Arsenio123
     
  9. arsenio123

    arsenio123 Son Montuno

    It is time to tell a bite more on the flamenco influence on Cuban music, Juan de Marcos Gonzalez did give some information on this.

    Basically he is telling that important elements of flamenco became part of Cuban music. We explain a bit of flamenco which makes this clear.

    The cante flamenco, meaning "flamenco singing", is one of the three main components of flamenco, along with toque (playing the guitar) and baile (dance). Because the dancer is front and center in a flamenco performance, foreigners often assume the dance is the most important aspect of the art form - but in fact, it is the cante which is the heart and soul of the genre. A cante singer is a cantaor.

    Also known as cante jondo and sometimes referred to as cante gitano. Meaning "profound" and "deep," this intensely sad form of cante deals with themes of death, anguish, despair, or religious sentiments and may be sung a palo seco (without guitar accompaniment). Major forms are the"tonás, martinetes, seguiriya, soleá, and carcelera. It is said that cante jondo (deep song) is the heart and soul of flamenco.

    In the South of Spain we had the Inquisition, people with a Jewish, Moorish, Arabic and Gitano background had to leave Spain, the same is true for blacks born in Spain. They were jailed and had to work as slaves on the Spanish ships to the New World and on the plantages, docks and mines. During their work as slaves on these ships and the docks developed songs without instruments (a palo seco) but 2 wooden sticks (claves) which they used.

    These songs became the base of Cuban rumba...

    More soon....
    Saludos,
    Arsenio123
     
  10. timberamayor

    timberamayor ¡WEPA!

    I haven't had time to watch any but the first video yet, but I saw that Afro-Cuban All Stars are releasing a new Live CD/DVD and doing a little US tour in April.

    these are the tour dates so far:
    http://www.timba.com/tours/afro-cuban-all-stars
     
  11. arsenio123

    arsenio123 Son Montuno

    Dear Timbera,

    I know but his is touring with a whole set of new mostly younger musicians. It is not the old Afro Cuban All Stars anymore, see the attached video of a concert of the "new" afro cuban all stars.



    Saludos,
    Arsenio123
     
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2017
  12. timberamayor

    timberamayor ¡WEPA!

    Yes I know. He has had a mix of younger guys touring with him for many years actually. Some of them are friends of mine. Actually Yulién Oviedo was on the original ACAS recording when he was like 16 or something so there have been young people involved the whole time.
     
  13. arsenio123

    arsenio123 Son Montuno

    Timbera,

    The older crew was much better with all the older very experienced Cuban soneros with great songs:



    This new crew is just starting....

    Saludos,
    Arsenio123
     
  14. timberamayor

    timberamayor ¡WEPA!

    Are you saying people shouldn't go to the concerts because the musicians are younger now?
     
  15. arsenio123

    arsenio123 Son Montuno

    No, it is about quality! People have to decide by themselves.

    Saludos,
    Arsenio123
     
  16. timberamayor

    timberamayor ¡WEPA!

    You are just a fan of the more old-school sound? Juan de Marcos has had a lot of different singers on various tours. For a while Tirso Duarte was touring with them. Carlos Kalunga and even Yarién Oviedo was singing with ACAS on some tours. I don't know who the actual musicians will be this time. I haven't seen a list.
     
  17. arsenio123

    arsenio123 Son Montuno

    I use this thread to tell something on the history of Cuban music and use the lectures of Juan de Marcos de Gonzalez, if you do not listen to them would you leave it alone. Other people can learn from those lectures. It seems you know everything already....

    Saludos,
    Arsenio123
     
  18. timberamayor

    timberamayor ¡WEPA!

    I'm sorry I thought people had discussions about bands. I didn't realize this was your personal lecture thread.
     
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  19. arsenio123

    arsenio123 Son Montuno

    You have nothing to say on the content of his lectures, nothing on the history of Cuban music....

    Saludos,
    Arsenio123
     
  20. arsenio123

    arsenio123 Son Montuno

    Today Juan de Marcos González Lecture, "Cuban Composers: 18th Century to Today"


    Saludos,
    Arsenio123
     

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