Rueda de Casino

It's fun in a giggly sort of way, and I also like watching rueda, but it just doesn't give you the sort of high you can get from one-on-one salsa.
And when people start dancing rueda in the middle of a tiny, already crowded dance floor... :evil: That's when salsa really becomes a contact sport.
 
Right, Casino Rueda style salsa is quite different than one on one. It is more of a team effort and everyone has to know the moves. But it is alot of fun and beautiful to watch.
 
yes, it is a lot of fun... but how do you teach guys how to lead in Rueda, when they expect girls to help them, by backleading, and the girls do...?! :shock: :shock: :shock:
 
That is one of the problems with casino de rueda. It all comes down to your dancing philosophy and skill level as a dancer. For instance, during practice sessions I believe that a follower should never ever backlead a leader, unless demonstrating what should be done. However, for social dancing I would say that in egregious cases a follower should backlead / compensate, just as in normal salsa one couple dancing. The problem of backleading is worse in rueda because the caller calls out moves so the follower knows what to expect rather then having to rely on just following, and so to be a true follower in rueda one must be a really good dancer in that role.
 
squirrel said:
yes, it is a lot of fun... but how do you teach guys how to lead in Rueda, when they expect girls to help them, by backleading, and the girls do...?! :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Exactly. My point has always been that this is not the focus of Casino Rueda particularly for beginners. My reccommendation is to have beginners learn one on one "before" learning rueda. But that's just my point, others do not feel that way. :arrow:
 
Hello !

For me, Rueda is just one possibility in all Salsa variations that exist.

It is necessary for a beginner to know how to dance (one on one) and how to lead the girl.
Moreover, when you dance one on one, you are more whith you Follower, you dance together and have an exchange. you don't have this exchange in a rueda. So it's fun but in my opinion, one rueda per night is enough :D
 
Learn Casino first - then rueda

This subject comes up a lot where I live. The key to Casino Rueda is Casino. This is a couple's dance done in Cuba. It's similar to Salsa, but not the same. Once you learn the basics of Casino, one-on-one, then move on to learning the rueda part. This will take care of all the issues of followers backleading and leads not leading.

I wrote this article a while back explaining Casino-Style Salsa - http://www.eugenesalsa.com/salsa_articles/CasinoRueda.cfm. Feel free to check it out.

I'm part of one of many groups on the west coast trying to promote Casino-style Salsa (in or out of a wheel). Also, check out Salsapower.com - promoting Casino world-wide.

It is an amazing, fun couples dance. If anyone wants to know of good videos that highlight Casino, just let me know.

Thanks,
 
This is a great idea simona! Teaching Casino first and then the Rueda! :)

I teach LA on1 mostly... but I think I'll just take the Rueda moves and do them individually (in couples) then put them together! :)
 
Rueda de Casino and Salsa

I disagree. These two terms are the same. The name Salsa was but a name used as the rest of the world assimilated this Cuban dance.

There is no difference. If you dance in structure, you can still do as much as you do in pairs.

Guarachero
 
Re: Rueda de Casino and Salsa

Guarachero said:
... These two terms are the same....
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Actually, they're not. Rueda is the differentiating term. In Cuba, the Salsa dance goes by the name of Casino. Rueda de Casino (Casino Wheel) is a formation made up of two or more couples which includes a "leader" or caller so to speak. Rueda de Casino uses some of the same dance figures BUT it also exchanges partners within the group, hence the call "Dame". It originates from the French Contradanza which was in style in the 18th Century and was very popular at Cuban society balls.
 
Casino

It is not that in Cuba goes by the name of Casino. That's the name given to the faster version of Son. That dance was invented by Cubans in Cuba. Later took a more international name.

Of course, Rueda measns circle. But my point is that when people ask about the difference between Salsa and Casino, I (as having been at its birth place and been a participant) have to disagree.

When comparsa soloist and Quinceañeras choreographer Alfaro came up with the idea, no one would have believed that this youthful play could have scalated to so much controversy. I never would have believed that there were so many Salsa authorities out there.

Guarachero
 
Guarachero, I think we're speaking of two different things here. Let's get back to the point of this thread which is about Raluca teaching LA style Salsa and learning Rueda de Casino. The differences between them and what we think about Rueda de Casino, etc.
 
Alot of moves I do in normal salsa are Rueda moves also. I'd say almost 60%-70% of it. For me there's not much differences, infact when I'm dancing Salsa with someone I know that does Rueda, I sometime say to them, I'm going to call out some Rueda moves, I just call it out and we both do it as a normal Salsa move.
 
The simple moves yes, however for more complex moves, i.e where both people needs to preform a certain action, then it needs to called out, there's a few series of moves where they all start of the same, however the endings are different. A skipping rueda move pops to mind, where if I didn't call it out, I'd only be the only one performing this, where really both needs to perform it.
 
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