Personality type?

[Gemini1357]

Sooo, out of sheer curiosity, what personality types according to the Myers-Briggs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator)Type Indicator (MBTI) are you salsa people?

Myself, I clearly score as an INTP, http://www.personalitypage.com/INTP.html , http://www.intp.org/intprofile.html

Test: http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm

[peachexploration]

I'm INJF :arrow: http://typelogic.com/infj.html

:? :D Yup, that's me. I cant remember what I was seventeen years ago when I took the test but it was slightly different. Amazing how the years and life's experiences change you. :)

[MacMoto]

INTJ... hmm, interesting.

[Morena]

ENFJ

[sweavo]

INFP. Which does mean I probably shouldn't be a software guy.

[Ron Obvious]

ENTP (inventor), I'm an engineer so I guess it's quite accurate.

[Jolinia]

I'm an INF J/P. I've taken the test several times over the past couple of years and I always came out as INF but switching between slight J and slight P.

[tj]

Took the Myers Briggs many years ago. Came out as an ENTJ.

Dunno if it'd be any different nowadays.

[andrep1]

still INTJ, although I tend to lean more towards the E

[Ron Obvious]

Took the Myers Briggs many years ago. Came out as an ENTJ.

Dunno if it'd be any different nowadays.

I think we seem to quite similar, close scores on the personality test and both seing the spinning lady the 'wrong' way. Or maybe there's a link between these, maybe something in the ENT makes you also see wrong way spinning.

[sirenita]

ENFJ-
Doesn't entirely match up to me...

[tj]

Took the Myers Briggs many years ago. Came out as an ENTJ.

Dunno if it'd be any different nowadays.

I think we seem to quite similar, close scores on the personality test and both seing the spinning lady the 'wrong' way. Or maybe there's a link between these, maybe something in the ENT makes you also see wrong way spinning.

Could be! :)

[AndrewS]

ISTJ. Some of it is right some is wrong.

[HF]

ENFP. Could be a musician, performer, writer, educator. All of which I are. :D

Interesting.

[SDsalsaguy]

eNFJ for me... represents 2-3% of the population and best described as "Teachers" (descriptions are fairly accurate actually).

[Ron Obvious]

I also noticed the descriptions are very accurate, but then I glanced at some other personalities' descriptions and they very quite accurate too. Maybe they are written to match many people, like astrology descriptions?

[noobster]

I variably test as INTJ vs INTP, depending on the specific questions and my mood that day.

How come we have so many introverts here? Isn't 70% of the population supposed to be extroverted? Is it just that it's mostly introverts who hang out on the internets in their spare time?

[SnowDancer]

I'm guessing a lot of dancers are introverts who are looking for a way to socialize that doesn't require a lot of conversation. :roll:

[Ron Obvious]

A Finnish extrovert is probably more introvert than an american introvert. When we answer these questions we make a mental picture of the situation, and that mental picture is affected by our surroundings.

Is 70% really extrovert? Not in this country, but that's just a hunch. ;)

[Pacion]

I'm guessing a lot of dancers are introverts who are looking for a way to socialize that doesn't require a lot of conversation. :roll:

...or, they are extraverts who do not mind dancing as if no one is watching? :D

[lotus]

Hi I'm new to the forum, and I just wanted to say hello to everyone! I've taken the Myers-Briggs test several times, and I usually test as INTP, and INFP on occasion. I think we introverts are creative souls that enjoy the artistic expression of dancing salsa ... at least that's my theory :)

[SDsalsaguy]

Welcome to SF lotus. :D

As far as the whole Introvert/Extrovert issue is concerned, I think it important to keep in mind that the Myers-Briggs typologies are based on Jungian psychology, and as such, these terms are not being used in the same manner as in everyday parlance. As they're being used here, introversion and extroversion have nothing to do with social skills/comfort, but are about psychological energy, i.e. do you need to be surrounded by people or do you need to be alone to recharge your mental batteries.

[Ron Obvious]

Right, thanks for pointing that out. It was mentioned in the test but I forgot about that and it's good to point that out again.

[SnowDancer]

I've heard that before. But doesn't that mean that a salsa dance, where we're surrounded by people, would be taxing for us introverts? For me, it's not, but maybe it's because the interactions are mostly physical. :?

[SDsalsaguy]

Again, a common misapplication of the Jungian premise... the issue isn't that that the opposite modality is taxing, simply that it is not recharging. So, for instance, one could very much social situations, not find them tiring in the least, but still need solo time to recharge.

Also keep in mind that we're currently dealing with Introvert/Extrovert as ideal types, when in fact these are a continuum. As reflected in the Myers-Briggs tests and scores, for instance, note that the strength of one's score as an I or an E is just as significant a part of understanding the result.

[sweavo]

How come we have so many introverts here? Isn't 70% of the population supposed to be extroverted? Is it just that it's mostly introverts who hang out on the internets in their spare time?

Maybe 70% of the people who jump at the chance to join in a survey are extroverts

[sweavo]

I've heard that before. But doesn't that mean that a salsa dance, where we're surrounded by people, would be taxing for us introverts? For me, it's not, but maybe it's because the interactions are mostly physical. :?

Nearly everyone who knows me is surprised to learn that I am an introvert because I am often loud and energetic in group situations. When I dance I give a lot of energy out and I like to dance with as many people as possible.

However, when I am dancing I draw from my spiritual core, like an Indian scout with his ear to the ground I listen to the vibrations in my own soul. I think this is an introverted activity. I don't know what the extrovert does, maybe he looks around to see how well he is measuring up to others, maybe when he dances he thinks of all the dance greats that he wants to emulate. I can't really speak for the extrovert, never having been one!

[Ron Obvious]

Nearly everone who knows me would be surprised to learn I'm extroverted, because I don't like to be at the centre of the attention. However, I was 73 % extroverted in the test and I guess these parameters are normally distributed around 50 %, so 73 % is quite strong.

It doesn't mean I need to have everybody looking at me when dancing (I just need the girl to do that, the rest should look away), but what it does mean is that I prefer to spend my evenings interacting with people to staying at home or wandering in the forest. Doesn't make me a party animal or someone who likes attention, just that I'd rather be around people than alone.

[salsachinita]

I'm ENTJ 8) :arrow: http://www.personalitypage.com/ENTJ.html & http://typelogic.com/entj.html.......

My report tells me that I am:
- slightly expressed extravert (11%)
- moderately expressed intuitive personality (25%)
- slightly expressed thinking personality (1%)
- slightly expressed judging personality (11%)
(where's the rest of the 100% :? ?)

Apart from the career bit, the description is pretty accurate. I guess my role as a follower is excellent to balance out my natrual leading traits.

:D I think that's pretty cool 8) .

[sweavo]

(where's the rest of the 100% :? ?)

I don't think you're supposed to add them up, it's more like being 25% italian and 100% man, IYSWIM

[Ron Obvious]

(where's the rest of the 100% :? ?)

I don't think you're supposed to add them up, it's more like being 25% italian and 100% man, IYSWIM

Sorry all Italians, but I just have to say this: you can't be 25 % Italian and still that much man ;)

[tj]

IYSWIM

:?: That's a new one for me. :?:

[SDsalsaguy]

(where's the rest of the 100% :? ?)
The %s are on each individual scale, not cumulative between the scales. So, for instance, the I/E scale theoretically runs from I (100%) <--- X --> E(100%). A low % is thus simply a marker of how strong one's personality tendencies are toward that characteristic. So, for instance, a low % simple means that one's tendencies (whichever of the four scales) are not particularly heavy toward either side of the continuum on that scale/variable.

HTH

[Ron Obvious]

This is what I thought, except I thought that e.g. a 15% I would in fact be 85% E. Where is the mean, not at 50%?

[SDsalsaguy]

This is what I thought, except I thought that e.g. a 15% I would in fact be 85% E. Where is the mean, not at 50%?
No, it would be at zero... and here's an example of why: in theory one could score as far as 100% E on one side of the scale or as far as 100% I on the other side of the scale. In the official/clinical version of the Myers-Briggs there actually is a score for those in the middle, so instead of being, say an INFJ, someone can "score" as an xNFJ, i.e. someone who (based on their responses) is not statistically more heavily E or I in their personality type. This doesn't mean that they never react like an E or an I (in this case), but simply that they are as likely to respond in either manner depending on the situation. A strong I type, say (70%) is likely to respond as an "I" in 70% more situations than an x (who is equally likely to respond as an E or an I).

This same pattern holds for each variable of course, with ExTP being a possible example. Very, very few people are really "x" on any variable though, and several repeats of the exam over time (especially the clinical version) are likely to be fairly accurate reelections of the personality tendencies measured by each scale (as typologically defined, not as per common usage).

HTH

[sweavo]

IYSWIM

:?: That's a new one for me. :?:

IYSWIM = If You See What I Mean

[Ron Obvious]

Again, a common misapplication of the Jungian premise... the issue isn't that that the opposite modality is taxing, simply that it is not recharging. So, for instance, one could very much social situations, not find them tiring in the least, but still need solo time to recharge.


This is from wikipedia so I don't know about the credibility, but the article on Jungian cognitive functions actually mentions that the opposite modality is taxing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungian_cognitive_functions][/url]
"These models do not claim that people are only capable of applying the function in question in that attitude, but rather that operating in the opposite attitude requires the expenditure of "energy" (or rather, emotional resources, enthusiasm, and so on) whilst operating in the person's natural attitude replenishes that same energy."

[redsalsero]

The Portait of the Crafter (ISTP)

The Crafter Artisans are not only concrete in speech and utilitarian in getting things done, they are also directive and attentive in their social roles. Though directive like their Promoter counterparts, their directiveness is leavened by a good deal of attentiveness and seclusiveness. They do not approach strangers readily, but once in contact do not hesitate to tell them what to do. And they can be quite forceful in this, such that others tend to do their bidding.

Like the other Artisans, Crafters live a life of artful action, but their particular nature is most easily seen in their mastery of tools of any and all kinds, from microscopic drill to supersonic jet, from potter's wheel to grand piano, from a camera to a clarinet. Sometimes Crafters will use their body as a tool. A tool is any implement that extends or varies our human powers -- vehicles, musical instruments, cutting devices, and weapons are just four of the many categories of the tools that surround us. Most of us use tools in some capacity, of course, but Crafters (only ten per cent of the general population) are the true virtuosos of tool work, with a natural ability to command tools, to bend them to their wishes, and to become adept at all the crafts requiring tool skills. Even from an early age Crafters are drawn to tools as to a magnet; tools fall into their hands demanding use, and they must manipulate them. Indeed, if a given tool, whether scalpel or earthmover, is operated with a precision that defies belief, that operator is likely an Crafter.

me :o

[Ron Obvious]

The Portait of the Crafter (ISTP)

Most of us use tools in some capacity, of course, but Crafters (only ten per cent of the general population) are the true virtuosos of tool work, with a natural ability to command tools, to bend them to their wishes, and to become adept at all the crafts requiring tool skills.
me :o

I find this funny: only ten percent of the population, what so "only" about that? If you divide the population into 16 groups, if they are evenly distributed that would make about 6% belong to each. So 10% is almost double that, not only.

Stupid people. (whoops, that attitude was in my description ;))

[noobster]

Nearly everyone who knows me is surprised to learn that I am an introvert...
However, when I am dancing I draw from my spiritual core, like an Indian scout with his ear to the ground I listen to the vibrations in my own soul. I think this is an introverted activity.

Me too. I always thought of myself as a rather classic introvert (would often rather curl up at home with a good book than go out, don't feel an urge to 'meet new people,' etc.), but I mentioned this to a couple of people who were really surprised. I think they might have been equating 'introverted' with 'socially retarded.'

And I also would say that the way I dance is more of an introverted way, because I'm pretty much focused on just what's going on in the dance - my partner, myself, the music - and not what's going on outside of it (unless it's a really awful dance and I'm planning my getaway).

It doesn't mean I need to have everybody looking at me when dancing (I just need the girl to do that, the rest should look away), but what it does mean is that I prefer to spend my evenings interacting with people to staying at home or wandering in the forest. Doesn't make me a party animal or someone who likes attention, just that I'd rather be around people than alone.
Not me. I'd rather be alone unless I already know the people concerned and like them. I hate going to events where I don't know anyone and being required to make lots of small talk. I'd rather stay home alone and engage in my own hobbies (all of which, except for salsa, are solitary activities).

So I guess an American introvert is still more introverted than a Finnish extrovert. ;)

I'm guessing a lot of dancers are introverts who are looking for a way to socialize that doesn't require a lot of conversation.
Quite likely. I can think of a number of people I love to dance with but to whom I haven't particularly much to say. (And a couple of great dancers who can completely ruin a nice dance just by opening their mouths... :twisted:)

[Ron Obvious]

I'm guessing a lot of dancers are introverts who are looking for a way to socialize that doesn't require a lot of conversation.
Quite likely. I can think of a number of people I love to dance with but to whom I haven't particularly much to say. (And a couple of great dancers who can completely ruin a nice dance just by opening their mouths... :twisted:)
Maybe, but on the other hand, it's the extroverted side of me that prompted me to seek myself to this forum. Or is it the Intuitive trait, which wants to see things from an outward or global perspective?

[DeeplyDippy]

ISTJ - http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes3.asp

To bl00dy miserable for me - I'm off to change my personality ...

[salsology]

Another introvert - ISTP

[MacMoto]

:bump:

(The conversation I had last weekend with Tresto has reminded me of this thread;))

[snowflake]

ENFJ - apparently ... description fitted quite well with me and what I do (far too much !!!). Great way to not get any real work done !! going to do the other tests now ....

[HalfMan]

ESTJ - It's a bit scary how close it is. Even the percentage breakdown:

Extroverted: 11%
Sensing: 38%
Thinking: 38%
Judging: 56%

is about where I would say it is (a little less on the E, a bit more on the J).

INFP. Which does mean I probably shouldn't be a software guy.

Which means I probably shouldn't be a software guy either. I should be the guy in charge of the software guys. Hmmmm....

[SalsaGipsy]

INFJ - http://www.personalitypage.com/html/INFJ.html, http://keirsey.com/4temps/counselor.asp, http://typelogic.com/infj.html

Almost 100% correct. Down to the irrational conflicts between reason and intuition. A scientist who relies on intuition, hmmm ... well they have an explanation of that too. And the contradicting personalitites. And the "recharge my batteries" time. The whole messy me. :D

At least I'm a rare species. 1% apparently. So, protect me - I'm endangered :P

BTW just in case checked some of the other profiles and they are definitely not me.

[olamalam]

ENTP

is it something good? :)

[tresto]

ENTPs are always super cool !!!
I'm INFP

[lolita]

ENFP
That's some Bull Cake

[wildbill20056]

ENFJ. Well I am a lecturer, as well as a part time salsa instructor, so it could be onto something :P

[EMOYENO]

ENTJ
Got some things right!!!

[sunsoul]

ENFP.... The introvert/extrovert aspect was almost 50/50.

[londongirl]

uncanny. but fun.

INTJ
http://keirsey.com/4temps/mastermind.asp
http://typelogic.com/intj.html
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes3.asp

[wonderwoman]

ISFP

very expressed introvert
moderately expressed sensing personality
moderately expressed feeling personality
moderately expressed perceiving personality

Wow! It sounds like I am terrifically boring to be around!
Might explain why I often enjoy my interactions with people, particularly dancing, but others don't perceive that I am enjoying myself, and I don't seem to add anything to their enjoyment.

[Hermanito]

INFP - is good description :)

[HothouseSalsero]

INFJ, according to this test, which I can't say I trust all that much. The I part is clear enough though. I believe strongly in reason, but I think it's unreasonable to either ignore intuition or to apply "scientific method" where it doesn't belong.

[TrulyMadlyAmanda]

INFJ

slightly expressed introvert 11%
moderately expressed intuitive personality 38%
distinctively expressed feeling personality 62%
slightly expressed judging personality 1%

along with Mother Teresa and Nelson Mandela, apparently, lol. :eek: who asked mother teresa and nelson mandela these questions, lol? ;)

i have a feeling my result might change daily - there were lots of questions where i was 50-50 on whether to answer 'yes' or 'no', since the real answer was 'about half the time'...or 'it depends'

im very introverted judging by the criteria 'do you recharge alone or with people' (i have to be alone for part of every single day, or i feel exhausted. if i get really tired or stressed, i go to the beach alone and dont speak to another soul all week), but the test didnt seem to pick that up.

edited to add: ....and where's my "thinking"?! i think, lol - usually waaaaay too much. ;)

[Kesh]

INTP... sounds about right.

[bailar y tocar]

ENTJ

Extraverted 67%
Intuitive 50%
Thinking 50%
Judging 44%

Earlier in the thread someone explains what the % means, I still don't get it. Probably the 1/2 bottle of fumé blanc I had for dinner.

The questionaire had me wanting the 'maybe', 'sometimes' button 50% of the time, I guess that explains the scoring.

[Salsa Student]

INTJ

I think the more interesting question is, does Salsa change one's personality and if so, how?

When I took the test a few years ago I came down fairly heavily in each of the categories, I think today I'd be much closer to the middle.

[Sabrosura]

I am an INTP.

A very good description of the INTP type is here:
http://www.intp.org/intprofile.html
(certain parts of it apply to non-INTPs as well)

For those who are not familiar with the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI)--it is based on Carl Jung's theory on psychological types and it is meant to assess a person's "core" personality type (or "preferences"), so the results should not change over time if you retake the test.

Also, the questions in the test differ depending on the source and it is important to think and read about each of the four "letters", especially when you are on the cusp, in order to decide on your own with which you identify more.

Below is a brief description of this very interesting test.

http://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/mbti-basics/

The purpose of the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator personality inventory is to make the theory of psychological types described by C. G. Jung understandable and useful in people’s lives. The essence of the theory is that much seemingly random variation in the behavior is actually quite orderly and consistent, being due to basic differences in the ways individuals prefer to use their perception and judgment.

"Perception involves all the ways of becoming aware of things, people, happenings, or ideas. Judgment involves all the ways of coming to conclusions about what has been perceived. If people differ systematically in what they perceive and in how they reach conclusions, then it is only reasonable for them to differ correspondingly in their interests, reactions, values, motivations, and skills."

In developing the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, the aim of Isabel Briggs Myers and her mother, Katharine Briggs, was to make the insights of type theory accessible to individuals and groups. They addressed the two related goals in the developments and application of the MBTI instrument:

The identification of basic preferences of each of the four dichotomies specified or implicit in Jung’s theory.
The identification and description of the 16 distinctive personality types that result from the interactions among the preferences.

Favorite world: Do you prefer to focus on the outer world or on your own inner world? This is called Extraversion (E) or Introversion (I).

Information: Do you prefer to focus on the basic information you take in or do you prefer to interpret and add meaning? This is called Sensing (S) or Intuition (N).

Decisions: When making decisions, do you prefer to first look at logic and consistency or first look at the people and special circumstances? This is called Thinking (T) or Feeling (F).

Structure: In dealing with the outside world, do you prefer to get things decided or do you prefer to stay open to new information and options? This is called Judging (J) or Perceiving (P).

Your Personality Type: When you decide on your preference in each category, you have your own personality type, which can be expressed as a code with four letters.

The MBTI instrument sorts for preferences and does not measure trait, ability, or character.

[bas]

INFP with E tendencies.

Used to be a pure INFP when I was a kid but apparently that has slowly changed over the years

[Harmony]

ESFJ...apparently, Bill Clinton, Martha Stewart and Cindy Crawford are, too ;)

[Salsacore]

ESTJ
Extraverted Sensing Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
22 12 12 33

[azzey]

INTJ

67-62-12-67

Interesting because I used to be strongly ISTJ when I was younger.

Famous INTJ's: Isaac Newton, Niels Bohr, C. G. Jung, Michel de Montaigne, Michel Nostradamus, Ada Lovelace.

[HalfMan]

INFP with E tendencies.

And I'm the exact opposite - ESTJ. Does that mean we wouldn't like each other - falling out on every subject and driving each other mad? Or perhaps, being on a completely different wavelength, we couldn't quite relate?

Just curious - I'm finding it hard to imagine someone completely different to me (I suppose that's the S and J in action :) )

Kind regards
HalfMan.

[petteri]

INTJ - Individualistic Non-rhythmical Training Junkie