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Claire_Brummell
06-06-2005, 11:49 AM
Hey - this came about in response to a post on the DF site...thought you guys might find it interesting too...

I recently started dancing at a new club and asked one of the guys there to dance. Now I have very few inhibitions when it comes to dancing - as far as I'm concerned, the dance is just that - whatever happens between two people in a dance remains on the dancefloor. Yes I've had dances that have given me that spark of excitment that normally comes from flirting etc. But if it's anything more than that then that will proceed off the dancefloor, not on it. Anyway the guy I asked to dance was....very....full on to say the least the way I described it to a friend (not to be too crude, but it was the only way I could think to describe it) was it was as close to being sh@gged (please let me know if our non-english friends need a translation - but I'm pretty sure you can figure it out!! ) on the dancefloor as I've ever come - it was an incredibly sexually charged dance. I thought, you know what I'm just going to go with this - to give the dance and the music justice - I went for it and completely let myself go (not in a cheap way, just playing up to my partner, tasteful but making the most of a very sexy dance) - all the time I was thinking, I'll go along with this AS LONG AS IT IS ONLY A DANCE - if I think he's going too far or that there's more to it then I'll have to back off.

It was one of the most enjoyable dances I've ever had - and at the end unlike most people who give you a hug or a kiss for a great dance, this guy merely kept a respectful distance, tapped me on the arm and thanked me for a great dance.

For both of us it was about the dance, pure and simple - it was fun, frantic and fantastic - it was sexy because the dance and the music were - not because there was anything between us like that and it was great.

Just wanted to put the point across that you can dance like this and enjoy it for what it is without it being anything more than that and to be honest with none of the emotional rubbish that goes with it - it's often far better this way!!

I think we've all been there where the lines have crossed either in our minds or in reality and it can get very confusing. I absolutely think that people who have a passion for dancing can and do find passion with others who share their love for salsa (or any other kind of dancing for that matter) but I think that if something comes of it that it needs to happen off the dancefloor rather than on it - because it is easy to misinterpret the signs when you're dancing so intimately with someone. It's only when you're out of that situation that you get to be a bit more objective about it!! (Oh and it's not just guys - there are a lot of women who do this too!)

To be honest, I think that the newer you are to the scene the more likely you are to misinterpret things - because in a salsa club things work so differently to the 'outside world' - it is so easy to see things in a different way. I went to a non-salsa club on Saturday night (sacrilige, I know) with a non-salsa buddy of mine. We were dancing and having fun and there were a group of lads there who we got talking to - I had a bit of a boogie next to where they were and made some small talk with one of them who seemed a bit left out - generally had a good night. Anyway, my friend and I after a visit to the loos decided we'd had enough and were going to go. The guy I'd chatted to came and found me as I was getting my coat and said to me "Hang on - I thought I was coming home with you?" - I was STUNNED - not only had I barely danced with him - merely near where he was standing and encouraged him to dance a bit, I'd asked him two questions - what's your name and what do you do - I'd left without even bothering to say goodbye and somehow he'd taken this to be an invitation to a night of passion with me?! I had to laugh to myself - thinking back to the dance I mentioned before at the salsa club - comparably the two aren't even close - and yet Mr regular club thought he was well in, and Mr salsa club didn't even ask my name...!!!

I think that this just highlights the differences between the salsa and 'real' worlds and the mental shift people need to make when entering a salsa club - the longer you've been in the salsa world, the more you understand it and the less likely you are to mis-read people's intentions.

Either way a good rule of thumb is if they're interested, and you are, that there's nothing wrong with it - BUT if they are interested they'll follow up with you off the dancefloor and in a non-salsa environment AS WELL as on the dancefloor. If the only contact / connection you have is when dancing then the chances are then that's all there is to it....

JMHO

Wondered if anyone had experienced anything like this - had problems distinguishing between dancing and more etc?

Claire xx

peachexploration
06-06-2005, 01:44 PM
I think all of this depends on what people's preconceived notions are. I've had many people say, "Oh my goodness! You're a salsa dancer!" And then give me looks like :arrow: :shock: :? or even :arrow: :twisted:

:roll:

The other thing too and this is just my opinion, the Salsa Club atmosphere tends to get lost in and associated with the regular social dance clubs. Yes, it is a social partner dance but quite a few people, even now (depending on where you live), don't necessarily associate it with being a skilled dancer. So you get alot of that "club" mentality when you're out dancing. Meaning, your there to socialize first and then dance. There's nothing wrong with that but outsiders and sometimes aspiring salser@s, don't make the connection that for the "salsa dancer", it's all about the dance, not finding a date, looking for a hot time "off" the dance floor, blah, blah, blah...... In all fairness, I think it has to do with the way Salsa is marketed. "Learn Salsa, and you'll have all the men and women after you!" :lol:

Yes, when you connect with your partner, it's a wonderful experience on the dance floor. But for the dancer, that's all it is. The more people realize and learn this, the better. Now, there is that chemistry that happens. That spontaneity that only happens with a specific dancer, that moment! But again, that's all it is: CHEMISTRY
I always keep that in mind and leave well enough alone. :lol:

In this regard, I've been quite lucky. Besides maybe the first of week of classes a few years ago (and now that I'm at my new school) It's been really a lukewarm experience for me. So, by nature and experience, I keep my distance so to speak. In other words, I've never had a problem with knowing the difference between romance on and romance off the dance floor. And quite frankly, I hope I NEVER encounter this grey area. Just to much drama there. :lol:

Claire_Brummell
06-07-2005, 02:59 AM
Just to much drama there. :lol:

lol - I'll second that!! :lol:

dulcetsalsa
06-07-2005, 08:56 AM
This is interesting. I was talking to my salsa collegue the other day about that dancing is just dancing. Here in Houston, I'm beginning to noticed that the medium size salsa crowd is getting smaller because people are hooking up (must have been the spring air ;) ) Therefore, there is a shortage of dance partners now. I had dated someone from the salsa scene and he was a passionate sensual dancer. I had no problem with it. Why "allow" someone to inhibit themselves on the dance floor just because you misinterpret their dancing as attraction. I think people mesh an exciting dance with an attraction to someone. I think it is ridiculous. Dancing is just dancing.......unless you see them get a number :shock: ;)

Claire_Brummell
06-07-2005, 08:59 AM
Dancing is just dancing.......unless you see them get a number :shock: ;)

lol - I agree - if there is anything more to it, you will see that off the dancefloor, not on it - to me the dance should be considered just that, unless obviously you are dancing with your partner! ;)

peachexploration
06-07-2005, 10:54 PM
I got this from another thread at DF. Someone actually wore a T-shirt that said "Yes, I am flirting with you!" I thought it woud relate to this thread somehow. ;)

Claire_Brummell
06-08-2005, 03:54 AM
I got this from another thread at DF. Someone actually wore a T-shirt that said "Yes, I am flirting with you!" I thought it woud relate to this thread somehow. ;)

LOL - I think we need to creat a T-shirt that says

"No I'm not flirting with you,
No I'm not interested in you
No I'm not married
No I'm not a lesbian

I'm just dancing with you!!!"

Rosa
06-08-2005, 04:17 AM
I must admit I haven't really had a problem with this. I'm not saying it's because guys don't find me attractive - Salsa is a sexy dance and I enjoy dancing close and sexily, particularly with Merengue and Bachata - but it's a bit like playacting, isn't it? When the curtain falls - when they escort you off the floor - that's it.

Of course, it might also have something to do with the pieces of hardware on the third finger of my left hand....but then again, I think some guys like that too, because they can go through all the motions of flirtation whilst being fairly certain that push is never going to come to shove!

Rosa :)

Claire_Brummell
06-08-2005, 04:44 AM
I must admit I haven't really had a problem with this. I'm not saying it's because guys don't find me attractive - Salsa is a sexy dance and I enjoy dancing close and sexily, particularly with Merengue and Bachata - but it's a bit like playacting, isn't it? When the curtain falls - when they escort you off the floor - that's it.

Of course, it might also have something to do with the pieces of hardware on the third finger of my left hand....but then again, I think some guys like that too, because they can go through all the motions of flirtation whilst being fairly certain that push is never going to come to shove!

Rosa :)

I agree totally Rosa - I think that it's all a bit of playacting...

As for the 'hardware' (nice terminology! ;)) I think that this puts everyone in a safe position because they know that they can play up to it without it being misconstrued - it's like dancing in a place where everyone knows you have a boyfriend - same deal, they all know that there is nothing more than dancing to it and so people can play up to the dance without thinking it's more...

peachexploration
06-08-2005, 06:44 AM
....As for the 'hardware' (nice terminology! ;)) I think that this puts everyone in a safe position because they know that they can play up to it without it being misconstrued - it's like dancing in a place where everyone knows you have a boyfriend - same deal, they all know that there is nothing more than dancing to it and so people can play up to the dance without thinking it's more...

This is true too. According to my hardware, I've been engaged for the last five years. :lol: :lol:

squirrel
06-08-2005, 09:10 AM
Here, the "hardware" is a turn on for some guys, who see it as a way of making sure you won't insist to see them again after you sleep together... :lol:

I know what you mean about romance on and off the dance floor... but with some guys it's so intense one cannot stop but wonder what it would be like... :)

Of course, I've been involved in Salsa romances (am currently in one, with my dance partner) but lately I haven't been interested in guys who dance (except my BF)... who knows, maybe I've changed... ;)

Rosa
06-08-2005, 02:07 PM
I know what you mean about romance on and off the dance floor... but with some guys it's so intense one cannot stop but wonder what it would be like... :)

I agree, squirrel. Once you stop wondering what it would be like, you might as well be six feet under.....

Rosa :)

squirrel
06-09-2005, 05:13 AM
Wondering... sometimes trying to find out! ;)

Claire_Brummell
06-09-2005, 05:24 AM
LOL - you guys crack me up! :lol:

El guru
06-15-2005, 07:51 AM
I've read fastly only a part of the posts... sorry for it...


I have totally the opposite problem... (I'm a male)

I like to dance sexy, and flirting during dance, but only like a fiction, then stop nothing more, because I love dance, and I do it only for dancing...

Sure, I like women, but I must be attracted by other things (brain first of all) that don't come out in dancing.

One time a woman asked me if in life I'd been so "sensual" like in the bachata we had... it was clear where she wanted to go.... I avoided, because not interested.
And... it seem strange (ore regular ;) ), less I'm interested, more they're attracted to do something else than dancing.

If considering my experience and the one of friends of mine, a woman with "hardware" on finger gives less problems... during dance, after dance, and.. if something mor happen.. after the after....