Tito Puente

[Fred]

Hi, I just joined and thought i'd mention an artist who I think is really incredible. I love old raw 1960s style mambo, not that smooth latin jazz stuff, and Puente had such RAWness!! I have a collection of some of his songs, but there's so much stuff out there that he's done. Has anyone any recommendations of other mambo that is less clean and more dirty like this guy's?? I'm such a loner for liking this kind of music, most people I know my age like a sterile blend of guitar music and hiphop. Bring on the raw mambo that's what i say!

[borikenSalsero]

Are you talking about staight 50s and 60s tito puente stuff? Perhaps, it inculdes Post mambo era, and what is known as the Salsa golden years through to the 70s?

The other two of the big three of Puete are Machito, Tito Rodriguez. Tito Rodriguez later became knows as the Latin Frank Sinatra.

But if you are into the heavier stuff, BTW, Puente's style is thought of as Mambo Jazz, you can check out Ray Barretto, Eddie Palmieri, Charlie Palmieri, Live versions of the Fania All Stars, Alegre All Stars.

After Puente's 50's hey days, music was brought down a notch in "complex-ness" and became more vocals oriented, which means that a tito puente mambo jazz heavy duty style, I believe you refer to, wasn't as prominent during the mid to late 60s until the early 80s where Salsa was truly dilluted ending up in what we have today; fluff salsa.

Spanish Harlem Orquestra still has a Salsa dura beat to it that you might enjoy.

[peachexploration]

Thought you might like this clip. :arrow: The Master Timbalero (http://www.salsaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=245)

Welcome to SF, Fred. Happy to have you here. :D

[El guru]

I can add some names to the Ones borikensalsero gives...

old salsa mambo and ny salsa dura groups

Mongo Santamaria, Roberto Roena; Johnny Pacheco, Larry Harlow, Richie Ray & Bobby Cruz


New deal of latin jazz mambo

Johnny Blas, Bobby Matos, Hilton Ruiz, Michel Camilo

Very small selection....

[Fred]

Thanks very much for the recommendations. I know what you mean about fluff salsa, because there's something in that music (latin) that a lot of people are missing because of the corny stuff being produced. I will be sure to check out the artists you mentioned. I think that people often mistake this style for being "happy" when it's actually a lot more powerful -it seems like it's 2005 and it's all over -what do you reckon? Will we see a revival in this kind of music. What I don't like is house music salsa. Crap too. I have to admit after a half hour of puente I need some hiphop, but then who's a music purist? Thanks to the other guy i'm happy to be here too!!! Thanks! Oh, anyone here play an instrument by the way???

[Fred]

:shock:

Thank-you also for that clip (just watched it). I think i'm gonna be asking where to get DVDs of this now...Better than any DJ!!!!!

Incredible.

[Rosa]

You're not alone, Fred. I go even further back than you - I love Cuban Mambo and Chacha from the 40s, 50s and 60s (I hasten to add I don't remember it from first time round!)

People whose music I like include Benny Moré, Perez Prado, Compay Segundo (long before the BVSC!) and the two Titos - Puente and Gomez.

Mambo on! 8) :D

Rosa :)

[peachexploration]

I'm with you there Rosa. The old stuff is just incredible. They just don't make music like that anymore. I'm glad you liked the clip, Fred. Nothing like watching a Master at work. Even moreso since he is no longer with us. Truly amazing. :)

[peachexploration]

Hi Fred. Are you still around? Haven't seen you in a while. :(

[peachexploration]

:shock:

Thank-you also for that clip (just watched it). I think i'm gonna be asking where to get DVDs of this now...Better than any DJ!!!!!

Incredible.Fred? How's it going? Haven't see you either lately? :? Stop by and say hello soon. :)