Need a review for Super Mario's Super Moves

Terremoto

Changui
I'm considering purchasing Super Mario's Super Moves. I am assuming they are pretty good - can someone give me a review.

Also, are these moves leadable? And what level of moves does he cover? Do they start out easy in his first volume and then progressively get more complicated as they gone?

Is it worth buying the whole set?

Any feedback you give me would be appreciated.
 
Heya T, funny you should ask this right now as I just got the whole set and started watching the first one just a little while ago.

Hopefully someone who has actually had them for more than an hour or so can respond as well, but so far I'm quite impressed. The first one assumes that you already know basic timing and cross body techniques, including inside and outside turns (although he uses different terminology).

He also explicitly states that the patterns are leadable and, as far as I can see so far, this is absolutely the case.

Hopefully some others will chime in, but I'll keep you posted as I work may way through them.
 
P.S. Should also mention that while some of his terminology may be new for me (e.g. never heard the term "see saw" motion used in salsa before), it was easy to see exactly what he meant by it.
 
SDsalsaguy said:
He also explicitly states that the patterns are leadable and, as far as I can see so far, this is absolutely the case.
I see that as the main strength of SuperMario's teaching. His moves are always leadable, and in his classes he always explains what the leader needs to do in order to make the move work (and what happens if you try to do it differently).
 
Hello, I am not a salsa expert but here is my though on vol 1 and 2 :
I think these 2 first volumes are alike considering level needed (intermediaire +) but even beginner can find something :-) I have a lot of DVD and those are my favorite behind salsacrazy series (really fantastic, intermediate vol 2). I am a 5 month beginner and I pick move here and there from the complete routine. There are some move I won't even care about because too hard or need more intimate follower (I guess). For example moves where you need to move follower with hand on stomach :-)
The move I picked are now my favorite ! Move/routine are less flashy than Espinoza series (I prefer less flashy), so I think those DVD are very very good for a long time investment (every time I take a look, I find new interesting moves/informations)

Lots of great variation on cbl with outside turn, with copa/check here and there, very leadable with of course a little experience :-) Volume 1 contains 11 routines !

Don't hesitate if you have questions.
Nicolas
 
Terremoto,

Here is my take on the videos.

Structure
All his DVDs follow this structure

1. A short introduction and thank you from Mario. DVD Volume 1 has an additional section on "technicalities", in which Mario revises the basics like CBL, CBLT, copa and drop hand catch, which from the fundamentals upon which advanced moves are layered. I bought Volume 1 simply for this: it's important to constantly revise your fundamentals and execute them clean. For this I always look at this section from Volume 1.

2. Each individual turn pattern
i) A demonstration to verbal count
ii) Actual breakdown of the combination
iii) A demonstration to slow music

3. Except Volume 1, Volumes 2 to 5 have demo clips of his social dancing. I find these segments to be truly inspirational, because they demonstrate what can be done socially with a lady who doesn't know what you're gonna do. Unrehearsed with nothing but solid connection and tension, I always get more inspiration from watching clips of social dancing than choreographed performances.
One small downside: if you like the music that is overlaid on the dancing, you're out of luck. The salsa group that did the music for these, Chocolate on Ice Cream, are gone and I can't get their CD anywhere.

Turn Pattern Structure
There are 9 to 11 turn patterns in each video. Each turn pattern is pretty long, and usually consists of about 4 to 5 moves. I like Mario's patterns because they are based on solid fundamentals: nothing too funky or ridiculous or contortionist. Some of these moves you will find are 'easy' moves done in new ways: variations of copas, CBLTs, and so on. Mixed into each pattern is often a more unusual move that will be new to you. Just like all good turn patterns in class should be: easier moves in new variations, and one or two difficult ones that make you scratch your head at first.

One thing I was tickled by was seeing a few pet moves I might have discovered independently on the dance floor or from horsing around with my girl friends are actually in the video. Now hundreds of other people will know them too... sigh...

All Absolutely Leadable
All his turn patterns are leadable with a lady of intermediate to advanced level, although some such as spins obviously require someone competent in that. Still you can change them round from doubles or triples to singles for lesser spinners, and the essence of the pattern will still be there.

The only exception is in Vol 4 and 5, where Mario gives you a pattern that he specifies is better for choreo. Even so I've tried them out and they are also leadable but probably best reserved for an advanced salsera who will be faster to react. At least he specifies what is a choreo move so you're never going to try something beyond your skill level to lead.

Generally Superbly Detailed
I really love the way Mario breaks his patterns down. I've reviewed elsewhere that some of the DVDs, notably Salsafreak and Liquid Silver's old Advanced DVD, glossed over too many essentials, especially their next to useless breakdown of the Men's Tunnel. NOT so with Mario and Susana.

The only objections I have are that some moves that are explained in perhaps too much detail, such as a simple half coke, take away from what I feel deserve more explanation. That being said, Mario glosses over nothing. He discusses body positioning, hand hold switches, subtle differences in common moves, etc that makes an unusual move work.

For example I believe it's move turn pattern number 4 or 5 of Volume 3, he spends a fair bit of time explaining what is a rather simple hand switch, but doesn't break down is so much detail the move following this, which an unusual crossed hand hold copa -> simultaneous FO and LE combination. I had to experiment quite a bit before getting it.

Summary
Buy. Even the Volume 1 with simpler patterns is worth it for revision of fundamental footwork. My only advice is the same one I give to all beginners: a DVD is best used for an intermediate social dancer with the experience to understand what is being explained, along with what may not be, such as body positioning and set up of relative facings, etc in order to make a move work without hurting the lady. Beginners, and other people from 'higher' levels who only take classes but don't social, should not learn from DVDs without access to a live competent instructor.
 
Thank you so much for your review!! That is exactly what I needed. I wasn't sure if I should buy them but after reading the reviews - I am definately buying them!! Super Mario should thank-you to 8)

I'll buy them, check them out, try them out, and then post back!!
 
I've managed to watch a bit more although not to get it out on the floor yet and I think dosvueltas has hit it right on the head, esepecially with this concluding comment:

dosvueltas said:
....is best used for an intermediate social dancer with the experience to understand what is being explained, along with what may not be, such as body positioning and set up of relative facings, etc in order to make a move work without hurting the lady. Beginners, and other people from 'higher' levels who only take classes but don't social, should not learn from DVDs without access to a live competent instructor.
 
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