DJ Profession on the decline................

DJFreddy

DJFreddy

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This is a prime example of why our profession is going down hill with people who don't know what it takes to provide musical entertainment at an event and go to it unprepared. Notice he is asking on this website where can he find Salsa music to download, probably he means for free. And worse yet he is unprepared for a Salsa audition with no Salsa music.

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"Where can i download salsa music?? i m a dj going to audition in a new club...i need atleast 20 cds of salsa...can some 1 please help me...can some 1 pls tell me where i can download salsa music free"

These are the type of people that give other DJs a bad name.

If you are taking a gig make sure it is something that you know you have the knowledge to do an excellent. When you agree to take a job go prepared to it and know what you are getting yourself into. Don't wait until the last minute to ask for free downloads and try to gather some knowledge about the music in a few days when it has taken others years. If you accept a gig the least you can do for a client is to go prepared!

He probably didn't get this gig.
 
I would hope not! I remember asking for help the first time I dj'd and I did so because I didn't like reggaeton, which isn't played that much anyway where I dj ,and so wanted help in getting some popular songs. I bought some and then a dj friend just sent me some. (I didn't even ask!) But I already had great music for salsa, merengue, bachata and cha cha cha. And I asked for help well in advance of my gig.
 
those are freeloaders!! :hiss:
I respect DJ's work. that's just like writing a prescription without you having a Doctor's Degree and asking your friend the real doctor for his approval.

Or asking a certified trainer to give you ideas for workouts. the trainer will NOT give you ANY ideas, you're not certified.
 
You will be surprised at how many event's I have been present where the DJ has no idea on what music he is playing. Instead of doing your homework and prepare properly before your event they just cash in and run!
 
DJFreddy said:
You will be surprised at how many event's I have been present where the DJ has no idea on what music he is playing. Instead of doing your homework and prepare properly before your event they just cash in and run!
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that what we call in plain Puerto Rican Spanish CHAPUSERO!! half a$$ job
 
DJFreddy said:
He probably didn't get this gig.
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Or maybe he did get the job. Chances are that the person hiring him was as clueless about what it takes to make a great salsa night as the DJ in question.

The whole International Salsa Scene is full of "grab the money and run" characters within all aspects of the "business chain" and one way or the other they help and support each other, so much so that they have become the majority in some parts of the world.

I am sure that you know that the way it works can mean that a clueless promoter will hire a cheap "lost in the woods" DJ (and his illegally downloaded music) for his venue. Then he will get a "progressive" and cheap salsa teacher who will be teach salsa to hip hop music. The crowd, which many times will not know any better, will believe that they are learning salsa and attending salsa club nights. So, because many times the public will not have valid references or benchmarks as to what the genuine article is, they will just get used to what is dished out to them.

Many times these clueless promoters/DJS/Teachers find allies of similar ilk to themselves and in no time we see international "salsa" (:rolleyes:) competitions and events run by unqualified and clueless "professionals", where all that is wrong with salsa nowadays will be on open display and "sold" as legit. You can imagine how some of the music might turn out in such events....LOL.

Sometimes of course, the irony is that the quality of the DJs might just turn out to be a lot higher than that of the dancers......;)
 
DJ Ara said:
Or maybe he did get the job. Chances are that the person hiring him was as clueless about what it takes to make a great salsa night as the DJ in question.

The whole International Salsa Scene is full of "grab the money and run" characters within all aspects of the "business chain" and one way or the other they help and support each other, so much so that they have become the majority in some parts of the world.

I am sure that you know that the way it works can mean that a clueless promoter will hire a cheap "lost in the woods" DJ (and his illegally downloaded music) for his venue. Then he will get a "progressive" and cheap salsa teacher who will be teach salsa to hip hop music. The crowd, which many times will not know any better, will believe that they are learning salsa and attending salsa club nights. So, because many times the public will not have valid references or benchmarks as to what the genuine article is, they will just get used to what is dished out to them.

Many times these clueless promoters/DJS/Teachers find allies of similar ilk to themselves and in no time we see international "salsa" (:rolleyes:) competitions and events run by unqualified and clueless "professionals", where all that is wrong with salsa nowadays will be on open display and "sold" as legit. You can imagine how some of the music might turn out in such events....LOL.

Sometimes of course, the irony is that the quality of the DJs might just turn out to be a lot higher than that of the dancers......;)
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Great post and so true sometimes :uplaugh:
 
DJ Ara said:
I am sure that you know that the way it works can mean that a clueless promoter will hire a cheap "lost in the woods" DJ (and his illegally downloaded music) for his venue. Then he will get a "progressive" and cheap salsa teacher who will be teach salsa to hip hop music. The crowd, which many times will not know any better, will believe that they are learning salsa and attending salsa club nights. So, because many times the public will not have valid references or benchmarks as to what the genuine article is, they will just get used to what is dished out to them.
......;)
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Try that in Puerto Rico... They will probably walk out mad and demand their $$ back. Then call the radio stations and post about how bad the DJ was and dish the promoter too!!!!! I've seen it happen too!! The promoters have to run out of PR!! LOL
 
EMOYENO said:
Try that in Puerto Rico... They will probably walk out mad and demand their $$ back. Then call the radio stations and post about how bad the DJ was and dish the promoter too!!!!! I've seen it happen too!! The promoters have to run out of PR!! LOL
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That is the beauty of living in a SALSA country and that is why salsa fanatics and the real professionals have to visit places like Puerto Rico, Cali, etc. to learn about salsa, and the business of salsa (the latter group).

Yes, there are international references as to what salsa clubbing/music/dancing and that elusive essence are all about,for those who are really serious about salsa and are searching for deeper knowledge (which all salsa professionals should be)! :)
 
DJ Ara said:
That is the beauty of living in a SALSA country and that is why salsa fanatics and the real professionals have to visit places like Puerto Rico, Cali, etc. to learn about salsa, and the business of salsa (the latter group).

Yes, there are international references as to what salsa clubbing/music/dancing and that elusive essence are all about,for those who are really serious about salsa and are searching for deeper knowledge (which all salsa professionals should be)! :)
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I agree
 
EMOYENO said:
LOL :bouncy: :bouncy: Just for that I want a Dance with the DJ!!! :banana: :banana:

Now back on topic please...
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Who says that the DJ profession is on the decline when some of us have Salsera fans like you who want a dance with us (see, we are back on topic now - ;))

Save a dance for me when I eventually visit La Isla del Encanto and I will save a dance for you when you visit Cali. :)
 
DJ Ara said:
Who says that the DJ profession is on the decline when some of us have Salsera fans like you who want a dance with us (see, we are back on topic now - ;))
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Ok... smooth!! LOL


DJ Ara said:
Save a dance for me when I eventually visit La Isla del Encanto and I will save a dance for you when you visit Cali. :)
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I liev in New Jersey now... so either PR or New Jersey, or both. I plan to visit the Salsa Congress (all three- NY, NJ & PR)!!!!
 
sagitta said:
I would hope not! I remember asking for help the first time I dj'd and I did so because I didn't like reggaeton, which isn't played that much anyway where I dj ,
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I don't like Hiphop but when an my client does want Hiphop I do go around the net and try and see the top hiphop tunes are so I can go to Amazon to purchase it. I have a Quince this week where they are requesting some Hiphop, I have not played some in months but I have spent the last 2 weeks gathering some Hiphop tunes so I can at least play some good tunes. I like to go prepared as much as possible. It never hurts to be over prepared but it will when you haven't prepared much.

Word of advice to the newbies! :o
 
EMOYENO said:
I live in New Jersey now... so either PR or New Jersey, or both. I plan to visit the Salsa Congress (all three- NY, NJ & PR)!!!!
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Because of business obligations I won't be able to travel for a while, but I would love to experience the salsa life in Puerto Rico, and if it is during a Salsa Congress, then that will be even more interesting. That is one of my travel aims for the not far future.

By the way, Cali is holding its first Salsa Congress from 29th of November to the 4th of December (I will post more details on this soon), so now there is one more congress destination for the salsa people. If not this year, then perhaps you may take the plunge the next year. :)

Now, for the salsa djs being in decline, well what can I say, the Emoyenos of the world keep us inspired and going. So we will never die! :D
 
DJFreddy said:
This is a prime example of why our profession is going down hill with people who don't know what it takes to provide musical entertainment at an event and go to it unprepared. Notice he is asking on this website where can he find Salsa music to download, probably he means for free. And worse yet he is unprepared for a Salsa audition with no Salsa music.

h ttp://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090220073547AA2GArM

"Where can i download salsa music?? i m a dj going to audition in a new club...i need atleast 20 cds of salsa...
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i wish that was the only example

unfortunatly the DJ industry is riddled with amateurs these days, not just in salsa but all genres.

the filtration process of having to invest money in music is no longer there and many people openly admit to not paying a red cent for their music.

the idea of spending money on good DJ equipment or (or why one would even want to do so) is totally alien to such people.

the result is there is no quality control either in the sound, or the track selection

further problem is that people have way too much music and forget (or never learned in the first place) their obligation to be consistent with the music
resulting in crowds who never expect to hear a tune they know and have a very poor connection with the songs.

and it can be hard to convince bar owners (and salsa promoters!) that you are not like that.

it sucks

rant over :D
 
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